Trump’s happy for Laura

Here’s the WaPo:

Laura Loomer, a right-wing activist known for headline-grabbing stunts after getting kicked off social media platforms, won a Florida GOP primary on Tuesday — and then was quickly congratulated by her district’s most famous official resident.

President Trump, whose Mar-a-Lago estate is in Loomer’s district, retweeted at least four posts about her win and tweeted himself, “Great going Laura. You have a great chance against a Pelosi puppet!”

Trump’s public support for a candidate who once called herself a #ProudIslamophobe, has called Muslims “savages,” and has contributed to conspiracy theory site Infowars drew quick backlash from critics.

And here’s a few of her tweets:

HT: Sam Bowman

(Feel free to put your irrelevant “whataboutisms” into the comment section, where I can ignore them.)


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45 Responses to “Trump’s happy for Laura”

  1. Gravatar of Chris Chris
    19. August 2020 at 14:54

    If I was running against her I’d do nothing than advertise all the horrific things she’s said.

  2. Gravatar of Michael Sandifer Michael Sandifer
    19. August 2020 at 15:49

    This all almost seems fascist.

  3. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    19. August 2020 at 16:23

    No public office holder, or aspirant, in a polyglot nation should ever fan sectarian or racial tensions, primarily for moral reasons but also for practical reasons.

    It would be nice if the mass media stopped fanning anti-white resentments as well.

  4. Gravatar of Ray Lopez Ray Lopez
    19. August 2020 at 17:54

    What about democracy Scott Sumner? Do you believe in it or not? This pol is merely reflecting what her red-necked constituents think. She’s from FL after all, ever heard of Florida Man?

    PS–I liked your ‘serious’ post at Econlib about what if the economy does not tank in August. What about that? Well Trump wins if that happens. Already he’s closing the gap in the polls.

  5. Gravatar of foosion foosion
    19. August 2020 at 17:57

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.): “All this time,” Massie explained, “I thought they were voting for libertarian Republicans. But after some soul searching I realized when they voted for Rand and Ron and me in these primaries, they weren’t voting for libertarian ideas — they were voting for the craziest son of a bitch in the race. And Donald Trump won best in class, as we had up until he came along.”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rep-massies-theory-voters-who-voted-for-libertarians-and-then-trump-were-always-just-seeking-the-craziest-son-of-a-bitch-in-the-race

  6. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    19. August 2020 at 18:38

    Certainly Laura Loomer appears repugnant—but she raises some unsettling issues, especially for the left-wing.

    Suppose Loomer’s hostility towards Islam is based on her Westernized perception of human and women’s rights?

    Have you ever met an American woman who embraced polygamy? Being forced to wear a burka? Other confining aspects too numerous to mention, let alone female genital mutilation?

    Leftists try to say mutilating females is not an Islamic idea…but it only happens in Islamic nations.

    “Female genital mutilation is praised in a few hadith (sayings attributed to Muhammad) as noble but not required.”–Wikipedia.

    And Wikipedia was bending over backwards to be fair.

    BTW, you can have four wives in the US. You just have to get married in an Islamic nation.

    A man financially well set-up, such as a certain Orange County resident, could live in Indonesia for a while, stock up on wives, and then return to the US.

  7. Gravatar of Ray Lopez Ray Lopez
    20. August 2020 at 01:00

    @Dr. Ben Cole – “Have you ever met an American woman who embraced polygamy?” – yes, there’s a porn category like that, it’s called “polyamory”. But in general your point is taken, though strictly from a libertarian point of view it should not matter what people do to their bodies, assuming some consent.

    @foosion – nice link, thanks.

  8. Gravatar of mbka mbka
    20. August 2020 at 02:40

    Ray,

    as the founders said of the US, it’s a Republic. Not a democracy. Nonwithstanding the title of his most famous book, de Tocqueville and many, many liberals/libertarians have pointed out that pure democracy qould be a very bad idea. Indeed, the entire constitution and bill of rights is about what the majority is NOT entitled to do, the rights that the majority is NOT allowed to take away, the laws the majority is NOT allowed to pass. Very few people seem to understand, even in the US, that the bill of rights and the entire constitution are about putting limits to democracy, to make sure certain unalienable rights of the individual (as opposed to the majority’s opinion) are not violated.

    And that’s another reason why populism is so repugnant, it assumes that popular ideas are automatically right, just, and justified.

  9. Gravatar of Mark Mark
    20. August 2020 at 04:06

    Ben, what does any of that have to do with Muslim Uber drivers? Are the Uber drivers forcing their riders to wear burkas and mutilating them?

  10. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    20. August 2020 at 04:48

    Mark–tricky issue.

    An American woman might feel that the immigration of Muslims could lead to a decline in women’s rights in the US. if Muslims vote as a bloc, then they can probably have some influence on certain social issues. An American woman might feel she should not financially support those who could eventually curtail certain women’s rights.

    In addition, an American woman might just be creeped out by the idea that the taxi driver is a possible supporter of female genital mutilation.

    Under US immigration law, no member of a Communist Party can immigrate to the US. Communists are perceived as a threat to US security and possibly to the public’s perception of free markets. The Communists could become proselytizers, or secret influencers or spies. I think the fear is overblown, but that is the law.

    Of course 9/11 revealed a threat to US security, from Muslim immigrant extremists.

    But immigration authorities never question immigrants about their religion, or what rights women and religious minorities have under their religion.

    I am not a supporter of Laura Loomer, nor of BLM. For that matter, neither of the establishment political parties either.

    But I understand how many people come to their concerns.

  11. Gravatar of Student Student
    20. August 2020 at 05:09

    Can someone explain to me the logic of a MAGA led boycott of a 121 year old American company founded in Akron (right in the heart of the swinging rust belt state of Ohio) that has never left its home, opened a new global head quarters there in 2013, and employs tens of thousands of Americans… because they banned MAGA hats (which is really stupid thing to do I admit – what’s a MAGA hat to them – what were there fights breaking out on the floor or something?)?

    This seems like childish behavior that helps no one. Come on man…

  12. Gravatar of Christian List Christian List
    20. August 2020 at 05:19

    This is still freedom of speech. Quasi-monopolists such as Youtube and Twitter are increasingly taking massive action against controversial thinkers such as Stefan Molyneux.

    They don’t even explain why they ban those accounts. Advocates of those bans say it’s because of “insensitive” comments he made. He is not as bad as Loomer, just really controversial.

    That’s the real danger right now. Censorship gets more and more common, the world is becoming more and more Orwell’ian.

  13. Gravatar of xu xu
    20. August 2020 at 06:08

    (Feel free to put your irrelevant “whataboutisms” into the comment section, where I can ignore them.)

    Is Scott 16 or 66?
    Is that teenage pouting, or old man bitterness?
    What a stupid statement.

    I presume being wrong on trade for the last 40 years has caused him to become delusional. A bit like an aging Freud, who just couldn’t grasp Jungs new age concepts.

    In regards to that woman being elected: at this point, anything is better than a dem. 8 more years of dems (AND OLD ECONOMISTS) and we’ll be working on communes with social justice counselors telling Asians and Whites how inferior we are to the great and powerful BLM gods.

  14. Gravatar of Raj Raj
    20. August 2020 at 06:14

    I don’t think Prof Sumner is talking about the views of Laura Loomner in his post. He is talking about President Trump endorsing her, congratulating her, and supporting her views. The office of the President, in my extremely naive opinion, should be above these petty things.

    @Christian List: Gun control, privacy rights, climate change, and marijuana discussions are controversial. Eugenics and racial superiority are downright cuckoo. Should a person have the right to express their crazed thoughts? Sure. Does Youtube and Twitter need to keep those videos on their platform? No. Can it present a slippery slope? Absolutely.

  15. Gravatar of Mark Mark
    20. August 2020 at 06:20

    Ben, Muslims in the United States overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party, which is the more feminist and pro-women’s rights party. The political incentives of minorities are typically going to lean towards the direction of protecting freedoms because their own freedoms are the most likely to be attacked.

    Christian, social media sites ban these accounts because most of their users don’t want to see this offensive content. There’s a reason Facebook, Twitter, etc. are more popular than more uncensored forums like 4chan. If people’s Facebook feeds were filled with this kind of offensive content, they wouldn’t use Facebook. Social media sites are exercising their own freedom of speech by choosing what to display in their venue; it’s no different from how they ban pornographic images—it’s no offense to freedom of speech for Facebook to ban pornographic images because there are plenty of porn sites you can go to to view these images, but people don’t want to see them while scrolling on Facebook. Similarly, are plenty of uncensored sites where people can get their offensive messages out to audiences that want to hear them, as Loomer was apparently able to.

  16. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    20. August 2020 at 08:20

    Ben, You said:

    “Certainly Laura Loomer appears repugnant—but she raises some unsettling issues, especially for the left-wing.”

    Yes, the proper response to bigotry is to point out the things you don’t like about the oppressed group. Can you be any more clueless?

    Christian, You said:

    “This is still freedom of speech.”

    What an insightful comment!! Wise and deeply profound. I’ll have to remember this wisdom next time you criticize me for something I write.

    Raj, You don’t fit in here with your logic, as my comment sections are mostly dominated by ignorant racists.

  17. Gravatar of Moldburg Moldburg
    20. August 2020 at 09:13

    Scott,
    Mission Viejo Demographics:
    70% White,
    13% Asian,
    8% Biracial,
    4% Other race,
    1% Black,
    3% Hispanic

    Why is it we see the most Puritan support on immigrants from the third world from those who spend countless sums to avoid living with them? Scott, If you cannot see why people do not support Muslim Immigration after countless terror attacks and grooming gang offenses, then I am not sure how to explain to you. Of course, White America for thee, but not for the kids of the next generation.

    Seriously though, what do you call someone who spends millions to live in uber-White neighborhoods while supporting policies that would make America look like the exact opposite demographically? Not situationally aware? Didn’t you say you were going to move to CA in part because of its large immigrant populations?

  18. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    20. August 2020 at 09:58

    Moldburg, For your sake, I hope you are just being a troll and aren’t so stupid as to actually think you’ve made a persuasive argument for Laura Looney’s racism. If you people want to be racist that’s your right, but why not just say so proudly? Why all the evasion, why inpugn the motives of those of us who don’t chose to be racist?

    BTW, I wish I could afford this sort of house in (highly diverse) LA, but it would cost three times more.

  19. Gravatar of Dale Doback Dale Doback
    20. August 2020 at 11:16

    Sadly, I think her rise is the new normal. I would like to think that Trumpism will go away when he leaves, but the reality is the Trumps and Loomers of the world are just symptoms of a wider problem.

  20. Gravatar of Moldburg Moldburg
    20. August 2020 at 12:03

    Well Scott,
    I can’t really blame immigrants for trying to further their lives, but Scott, if you think demographics don’t matter, especially with China’s rapid rise, and the continued stagnation of Africa, then I am not sure what to tell you.

    My argument is simple, Muslims kill more Europeans than vice-versa, so we should not be importing them, and be happy when they can’t easily find their way here. Trying to import people with higher crime rates than you may be something you are interested in, but not me. I’m curious how your economic model says we get richer per capita by importing those with higher crime rates. Please do let me know, I would be curious.

  21. Gravatar of msgkings msgkings
    20. August 2020 at 12:34

    @Moldburg:

    Muslims in America commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than natives. I agree with Scott, just out and out say you want the US to remain as white as possible, just because whites are more awesome. He doesn’t have to agree with you. But shout it loud!

  22. Gravatar of Christian List Christian List
    20. August 2020 at 13:24

    Scott,

    any idiot can rip a snippet from a passage and act as if this was the point. This is childish strawmen behavior that even some small children can see through. Some people never stop behaving like that though, even when they have reached retirement age.

    Mark,

    Christian, social media sites ban these accounts because most of their users don’t want to see this offensive content.

    I don’t find your arguments convincing. Users can already block other users if they don’t want to see somehting. It’s just one click. A general ban by the operators themselves is something different entirely.

    Not to mention that the algorithms of these pages are apparently built in such a way that the snowflakes usually don’t even get to see the opinions that don’t correspond to their opinions.

    Above a certain size and market power, the operators of these platforms should not have such arbitrary banning power. It is a very dangerous development. You really shouldn’t defend this development. It is no different from the cancel culture at universities and so on.

    There’s a reason Facebook, Twitter, etc. are more popular than more uncensored forums like 4chan.

    I don’t use these platforms so much, but as far as I read the situation, these platforms have become rather less popular in recent years, and at the same time censorship is becoming more and more extreme, more and more political and more and more arbitrary. Perhaps there is a connection.

    Anyway, it’s interesting to see how the alleged freedom advocates like Scott and you argue here. Hypocrisy at its best.

    Similarly, are plenty of uncensored sites where people can get their offensive messages out to audiences that want to hear them, as Loomer was apparently able to.

    This is like saying that zoning is not a problem, because hey, you can still build in the Mojave desert. And Loomer wasn’t even pursued, Molyneux was pursued, a guy more intelligent and less offensive than Loomer.

    Like I said it’s completely arbitrary, it’s like the Cheka in the past. The antifa Cheka cancel culture is running amok and just shooting anybody who sticks his head out.

    Very telling that you guys defend this. As I said: Hypocrisy at its very best.

  23. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    20. August 2020 at 15:18

    Scott: who is more oppressed in the United States? Women or Muslims? Does not the answer depend on who you ask?

    Why do you think Muslims are oppressed in the US?

  24. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    20. August 2020 at 15:29

    Mark– Good point, but unfortunately the Democratic Party is no longer about protecting freedoms and much more about censoriousness and government control of commerce and speech.

    To say that any religious group is aligned with the Democratic Party is cold comfort indeed.

    And no, the GOP is no better.

  25. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    20. August 2020 at 16:41

    Add on for Mark (sorry):

    The unfortunate truth is that, if as you say, Muslims have become aligned with the Democratic Party…that means Muslims will present themselves as an oppressed group, and no honest discussion about Islam is allowed, but only PC discussion.

    Inside the D-Party, frank discussions about Islam, women’s and gay rights are no doubt not allowed. The DNC telethon underway mentions no such schisms.

    I can speak openly about evangelicals, and what I perceive as political or social shortcomings of that group.

    If I speak openly about Muslims, then I am accused of being a bigot, or aiding and abetting bigotry.

  26. Gravatar of JC1 JC1
    20. August 2020 at 21:25

    Hi Scott. Here’s your problem in highlighting Learner as someone who should be cancelled. When you have “The Squad” on the left and the top honchos on the left give them tacit support and voice, don’t be surprised if people on the Right want their own “Squad”.

  27. Gravatar of JC1 JC1
    20. August 2020 at 23:10

    Loomer.. not Lerner.

    I had her name confused with the Democrat IRS cheat, Lois Learner.

  28. Gravatar of Andrew Andrew
    21. August 2020 at 01:40

    Scott, you are in my mind a highly rational person whom from a monetary policy perspective I have learnt a lot. You seem to attract a lot of folk in your comments you are simply not interested in rational debate. Why is this?

  29. Gravatar of Tom Brown Tom Brown
    21. August 2020 at 09:46

    I’d trade Laura Loomer and every one like her for an equal number of random Muslim immigrants who go on to become Uber or Lyft drivers. At least the drivers do something useful. Loomer is just another useless narcissistic parasite who thinks she deserves our attention. In other words she’s an entertainer at heart, except without any skills. Thus she has to resort to being outrageous to get the attention she craves.

    I hope for Loomer’s sake that she can find the strength to put the mirror down and do something useful with her life someday.

  30. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    21. August 2020 at 09:47

    Moldburg, You said:

    “Scott, if you think demographics don’t matter”

    I’ve said demographics do matter, at least 10 times in this blog.

    And why don’t you talk about the Muslim murder rate in America? Wouldn’t that be more relevant to your argument?

    Also, can I assume that you favor using immigration to remake America from a majority white to a majority Asian nation? After all, you seem to think that murder rates should determine immigration policy.

    Christian, You said:

    “Anyway, it’s interesting to see how the alleged freedom advocates like Scott and you argue here.”

    No, it’s interesting that you continue to mislead people about what I say, or else lack reading comprehension. (Probably both.) I favor freedom of speech, and have never argued otherwise. I’ve never even hinted otherwise, and certainly not in this post. Why do you keep making things up? Do you think leaving comments here that are obviously misleading will impress your fellow commenters? Who are you trying to impress with your childish behavior? I’m genuinely curious.

    Wouldn’t it be more useful if you told us how you felt when you read that 2000 people had died trying to cross the Mediterranean? That sort of comment would be far more interesting to read, rather than you continuing to misrepresent my views. No wants wants to read that sort of garbage, not even other Trumpistas.

    Ben, You said:

    “Why do you think Muslims are oppressed in the US?”

    When did I say that?

    JC1, You said:

    “Here’s your problem in highlighting Learner as someone who should be cancelled.”

    I never said she should be cancelled, I said Trump should not endorse her. Do you disagree?

    Andrew, It’s because this blog is no longer any good.

  31. Gravatar of Tom Brown Tom Brown
    21. August 2020 at 09:56

    @Christian,

    There are choices. Parler for example. Lots of “conservatives” made a big show about moving to Parler and encouraged others to follow.

    But it turns out they keep showing up on Twitter anyway. I guess it’s just not as fun for them on Parler.

    No one owes them an audience though.

    The only attempts to squash “freedom of speech” have come from the government and that’s what the 1A is about. For example, Trump trying to prevent a book critical of him from being published. The courts rightfully shot that down.

    The 1A is not about taking private property rights away, no matter how much these so-called “conservatives” yearn for that to be the case.

  32. Gravatar of Moldburg Moldburg
    21. August 2020 at 10:37

    Msgkings,
    One of the tricks you pro-immigration advocates do is you group White and Black native born and say that immigrants have a lower rate than the natives. It is so dishonest that I cannot believe anybody believes that stupid argument anymore. Of course, for some groups, like the Iraqis and the Somalis, the native born actually end up having a lower murder rate, so the point is moot. Every study on this issue find that outside of East Asians, every immigrant group to the US has higher murder rates than the Native born White population. Hispanics in particular, have twice the murder rate. Explain how importing more violent people makes America richer.
    Scott,
    You said< "I never said that demographics don't matter",
    Then are you an idiot? Why else would you promote policies that would make Whites a minority of America then? Do you actually think importing people from broken countries will make America stronger? Explain how that works.
    You said, "Should we make America majority Asian instead, since they have a lower murder rate?"
    I wouldn't be a fan, since Asian countries are much poorer than America on average, but sure, if it works. However, a cursory look at the composition of immigrant flows that are Asian have been trending down in recent years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States#Origins_of_the_U.S._immigrant_population,_1960%E2%80%932016
    You folks always say if we don't like dumb immigrants, like the Somalis or the Muslims, then we should import the smart immigrants, like the Asians, but then get mad when Trump tries to stop the dumb immigrants from coming here. Just say America should import anyone, regardless of their murder rate, so we can skip this back and forth.

  33. Gravatar of Moldburg Moldburg
    21. August 2020 at 10:55

    Also,
    Joe Biden had Donna Hylton, a woman who abducted and raped a White Gay Man for 15 days, before killing him with a metal pipe, nominate him for president at his convention.
    Scott, you still believe that Joe Biden is a better person than Donald Trump morally? At least Trump doesn’t have convicted murderers endorse him lol.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Hylton
    In America, you can abduct and kill a White Man after torturing him for 15 days(!), and still get to speak at a national convention, and Scott and the morons on this board wonder why Nationalism and Populism is rising.

  34. Gravatar of bb bb
    21. August 2020 at 13:42

    I’m out.

  35. Gravatar of Willy2 Willy2
    21. August 2020 at 13:48

    – And why do muslims want to move to Europe ?

    1) governments in the Middle East and North Africa have a complete mess of their economies.
    2) All those wars wars the US started and participated in in the Middle East have uprooted A LOT OF people who have fled those warzones or want to flee those warzones.

  36. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    21. August 2020 at 16:26

    Yes, the proper response to bigotry is to point out the things you don’t like about the oppressed group. Can you be any more clueless?–Scott Sumner

    I thought by this sentence you implied Muslims were oppressed in the United States.

    Laura Loomer is repugnant and not fit for office.

    I wonder if the identity-obsessed stance of the Donks is any better. We are duly informed of every aspect of Kamala Harris’s ethnic heritage back two generations, her gender, her sexual orientation, her marriage partner…everything except what kind of policies she would promote.

    (It is not PC to mention that Harris is a Brahmin, India’s “highest” caste)

    BTW Harris seems much smarter than Biden or Trump. But IQ and the best policies are not always a match.

  37. Gravatar of Christian List Christian List
    21. August 2020 at 18:27

    Scott,

    our angles are just different, and that says something. I think it is important that these messages get through to the voters, they should not be censored, otherwise no one will know what they are voting for. All right, I can except you, but a lot of people see it differently, maybe even a majority, even in the US, and that’s just frightening. That’s my angle on the issue. I’m not that interested in what Loomer or Molyneux or Trump have to say all day, but it’s important to me that all people are free to express their opinions. That’s my angle on this.

    Wouldn’t it be more useful if you told us how you felt when you read that 2000 people had died trying to cross the Mediterranean?

    You are so strong on the feelings train lately. I don’t see what my feelings on these issues would change and why they would be important. Feelings, no matter in which direction, certainly do not change anything about 2000 dead people. I do not see your endgame here. The crossing of the Mediterranean is kind of dangerous. The number of deaths is proportional to the number of people who do the crossing. I would advise reducing the border crossings significantly, then, and only then, there will be far fewer deaths. But that is the opposite of what you want. That’s probably why the dead gnaw on you so much, you have a bad conscience. My conscience is clear, my policy would reduce the dead to zero or almost zero.

    There are choices. Parler for example. Lots of “conservatives” made a big show about moving to Parler and encouraged others to follow.

    Tom,

    I already talked about this. It’s obviously not the same and you know this. This is like saying that zoning is not a problem, because hey, you can still build in the Mojave desert. Yes, you can, but it’s not a good point.

    The only attempts to squash “freedom of speech” have come from the government and that’s what the 1A is about.

    No, this is like the bakery case, where activists wanted to force a small bakery to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. This is actually 1A bread and butter. With the difference, of course, that we are talking about very large platforms here instead of a tiny bakery.

    There must be tens of thousands of bakeries that make cakes in the US, of equal quality and even better. The platforms on the other hand are so big, there are no good alternatives, it’s the network effect and the winner-takes-it-all effect. Huge difference.

    For example, Trump trying to prevent a book critical of him from being published.

    I agree that there have been attempts of this kind. I also agree with Scott that there are such attempts. But don’t you see the big difference? All you guys are ever coming up with are clumsy attempts, isolated incidents, and they all fail. Of course they fail, because the US system in this regard is very much intact.

    Me on the other hand, I bring real censorship, real cases that do not fail, and no isolated incidents, but cases that are carried out thousands of times per day in Western democracies, unfortunately now also in the US. Again, huge difference.

  38. Gravatar of William William
    21. August 2020 at 23:48

    I’ve been reading your posts. And I find them to be very cynical, unacademic, lacking in sophistication, and very critical of very complex subjects, which you oversimplify based on a clear lack of understanding (especially in the tech field).
    There are two important words in the dictionary: “diplomatic”, and “tact”, I suggest you carefully review their definition and apply them to your writing.

    You incessantly rant about “banana republics’ (a horribly negative and condescending term), but when a conservative woman get’s elected through the democratic process you throw around more useless epithets.

    One contradiction after the other….

  39. Gravatar of anon anon
    22. August 2020 at 07:20

    On the www, it is not known if this twitterati is really a human being or a bat or a parody account or a troll account by anyone with a nefarious design. Still, have a go https://twitter.com/AairahHasan/status/1296328400307552256

    On the Dem VP nominee: one of my Indian acquaintance says the Indian Americans, a sizeable number of them, don’t buy into the Indian-ness of KH and view it as just opportunistic play (thats par for course in politics and campaign). Typically the caste comes via father, not mother. Anyways, woke can easily turn a blind eye on things not to be focussed. Black/Female trumps Brahmin.

  40. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    22. August 2020 at 08:18

    Moldburg, You tell me that murder rates should be the criterion for immigration and when I point out the implications—that we should replace whites with Asians—you recoil from the implications of your professed beliefs. Perhaps you have some other motives?

    I’m reminded of white parents who don’t want black kids in their schools because they think they don’t study hard enough, and don’t want Asian kids because they think they study too hard.

    You said:

    “Why else would you promote policies that would make Whites a minority of America then?”

    Whites are already a minority in California (and indeed Orange County), and I love it here. They are also a minority in Texas, another state that I’d happily reside in.

    Some of us don’t go through life in fear of being murdered, and have other things to focus on. Might I add that America’s murder rate has fallen in half since 1990, despite surging immigration. Or that NYC’s murder rate plummeted as immigrants moved in.

    I’m also puzzled that you exclude blacks when comparing immigrants with native born people. I see no reason for doing so. Murder rates vary among different native born groups, and also among different immigrant groups. You insist on cherry picking the native born groups with the lowest murder rates and stacking that against the immigrant groups with the highest murder rates. Of course that will make immigrants look bad, but is that reasonable?

    As for Biden, there’s a difference between Christians who believe in redemption for past sins and Trump who actually supports torture and favors putting Uighurs into concentration camps. That’s not to say you aren’t right in this case, I know nothing of her, but to compare Biden’s ethics to Trump’s is absurd. Indeed it shows how politics blinds people.
    Personally, I am neither a Dem or a Republican. I view Trump and Biden as both being buffoons. But it’s obvious to me (and indeed to the vast majority of liberal, moderate and even conservative intellectuals) that Trump is the much great scoundrel. Open your eyes; take off your political blinders.

    Ben, I forgot that I mentioned oppressed. Let me put it this way. We have a major political party that has taken a bigoted stance toward Muslims, indeed nominated for president someone who favors a Muslim travel ban. When that President endorses a woman with extreme anti-Muslim views, is the proper response to come on here in the comment section and tell me things you don’t like about Muslim culture? (And its 1.5 billion people, thus certainly not a single culture.)

    William, Yes I should be more diplomatic, but wouldn’t you agree that you should be more accurate? For instance, you said:

    “but when a conservative woman get’s elected through the democratic process you throw around more useless epithets.”

    Reread my post and tell me where I was being undiplomatic. If you do so, I’ll admit I was wrong and you were right. But I suspect you won’t be able to do so, as my post consists of three short sentences, none of which are critical of this “conservative woman”. Instead, I implied that Trump should not be supporting a candidate with these sorts of views, indeed I believe he should endorse the Democrat in the race. Given her extreme and offensive views, I think my post was quite diplomatic.

    What do other commenters think?

  41. Gravatar of Michael Rulle Michael Rulle
    22. August 2020 at 09:17

    Keep in mind this is Scott’s junk/blog—so he can be just like us—cherry pick, let all the dislike hang out, exaggerate etc. He also agrees with at least 50% of America.

    I like this blog because it is just a food fight—–he sucks!–no he does not but that guy really sucks.

    So one of my pleasures was remembering Trump winning in 2016—and still watching Hillary THIS WEEK complaining about it. It was great. And Barry/Bill had me rolling—they are truly funny.

    Also, Scott hates Trump—-I don’t know if he hates any of the Dems like he does Trump—although I am sure he can pick out a few.

    Also, remember, Scott is a LIBERTARIAN. So he is not voting for Biden. He is just feeding us Trump supporters raw beef with a touch of rat poison because he enjoys it—-and I say Why not .Again, he is NOT Voting for Biden/harris. He can’t—it will make him ill.

    He lives in California–not sure who his local congress guys are—but if they are going to win by 20 points I doubt he will vote. I wouldn’t. Maybe there is some weird proposal on the ballot—or maybe he wants Trump to get even less votes

    I have been called a 3rd grader (I got as high as an 8th grader!!–not bad compared to most Americans). Nate Silver has Trump at 29%, same as 10/31/16—went to 37% on election day–and ! 100% after election day.

    That’s what I am looking forward to again—last week was pathetic for Dem’s. They probably lost 1.5%–which is YUGE in this election. I think despite Scott’s boo hoo on the Fla congresswoman–DJ may gain another point this week.

    When deaths drop to 500 a day and when the Dems refuse to mention non stop fake antifa (but real violence) it will be way more fun than even watching Hillary and Bill and Barry this past week—-no way Scott does not find them gross—just Trump is more gross

    Remember—Scott can’t stand the Dem’s (so feel happy)–he just hates Trump more.

  42. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    22. August 2020 at 16:59

    Scott- I have no biases against Catholics, Muslims, evangelicals, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. I happen to be an atheist myself, perhaps that’s why.

    When the US religious right forces creationism into textbooks, I think they are nuts. I think creationism is a perfectly valid religious belief.

    I think women, gays and religious minorities have justifiable concerns about the practice of Islam around the world. Some people have called for a Reformation of Islam. That strikes me as a good idea. When apostasy is a capital offense…

    PS. By mounting a defense of gays, I have ascended to the very pinnacle of righteousness, wrapped in a mantle of virtue!

  43. Gravatar of JC1 JC1
    22. August 2020 at 17:53

    JC1, You said:

    “Here’s your problem in highlighting Learner as someone who should be cancelled.”

    I never said she should be cancelled, I said Trump should not endorse her. Do you disagree?

    I wouldn’t endorse her, but if the president feel he wants to then, I have no problem because senior D’rats have endorsed “the Squad” in the past. If the Left can have their loon squad, the GOP should have the right to have theirs too.

  44. Gravatar of JC1 JC1
    22. August 2020 at 17:55

    In any event, Scott, Biden et al has endorsed AOC’s depression inducing Green New Deal, which is an open endorsement of that hate filled lunatic.

    We want our loons too. 🙂

  45. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    23. August 2020 at 09:02

    JC1, It’s par for the course for Trumpistas not to see the difference between “loony” and evil.

    Ben, Earlier you said:

    “Have you ever met an American woman who embraced polygamy? Being forced to wear a burka? Other confining aspects too numerous to mention, let alone female genital mutilation?

    Leftists try to say mutilating females is not an Islamic idea…but it only happens in Islamic nations.

    “Female genital mutilation is praised in a few hadith (sayings attributed to Muhammad) as noble but not required.”–Wikipedia.

    And Wikipedia was bending over backwards to be fair.”

    And now you say:

    “I have no biases against Catholics, Muslims”

    So those earlier comments were meant as praise for Muslims?

    Here’s a tip Ben. If you write things that will lead people to believe you are an anti-Muslim bigot, then they are likely to end up believing that you are an anti-Muslim bigot. Maybe you are not. But in that case I might suggest you refrain from writing things than lead people to believe you are an anti-Muslim bigot.

    I’d suggest that in the future that you not respond to a vicious anti-Muslim tweet by citing all the things you hate about Muslims. People might get the wrong idea.

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