Trump Derangement Syndrome is very real

Anyone who doubts the existence of TDS needs to look at this recent poll:

A recent survey released by the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) found that only 29 percent of Republicans say that American culture and way of life have changed for the better since the 1950s.

The number is a leap down from 2020 when 46 percent of Republicans said American culture and way of life had changed for the better since the 1950s, but is only two points off from what Republicans said in 2016, before Donald Trump was elected President.

(It would be interesting to know how many black Republicans feel this way.)

You might argue that this is not surprising, that the same is true (in the opposite direction) of Democrats. But the poll results suggest otherwise:

Sixty three percent of Democrats who participated in the survey think American culture and way of life has changed for the better, which is about the same as it was in 2020.

The Trump cult is so obsessed with their leader that they literally believe that the entire nature of the United States of America changes on a dime the moment he enters office and then again the moment he leaves. When they think of America they don’t visualize a country, they visualize a man. It’s a personality cult.

So please, do not tell me that there is no such thing as Trump Derangement Syndrome.



13 Responses to “Trump Derangement Syndrome is very real”

  1. Gravatar of nick nick
    14. November 2021 at 16:21

    lets do a comparative analysis. We will put “Lets go Brandon” on one side of the aisle, and the legendary and magnificent Donald John Trump on the other.

    Let’s go Brandon policy:

    1. More taxes. I guess they know how to spend better than you.
    2. Siphon local power and give it to the national government.
    3. Cut off domestic energy production, raising prices unnecessarily.
    4. Weird relationship with unelected bureaucrats at UN and WEF
    5. Mass immigration at a rate we cannot support.
    6. Printing money, on demand, with the stroke of a pen. (inflation)
    7. No tariffs to protect workers. Homogenization of industry.
    8. Tax subsidies to companies that follow UN agenda.
    9. Covert wars, nation building, dark money
    10. Bigotry (CRT)
    11. Cancel culture (kicked off platforms that monopolize advertisement. In other words, these platforms have become town squares). Intolerance for those with different views.
    12. Always more money for social programs and education, which are better produced locally than nationally.

    The legend. The hero. The amazing: DONALD JOHN TRUMP! And yes, I just say it like that to get under Sumner’s skin.

    1. Fewer federal taxes.
    2. Return power to the states and community.
    3. Fuck the UN and their so called “agenda”. Nobody cares about unelected losers in Europe, or Klaus Schwab’s totalitarian objectives.
    4. No bigotry. NO CRT. Merits and facts matter, not your feelings.
    5. Break up monopolies and oligopolies.
    6. Middle finger to propagandists known as “opinionated journalists”.
    7. More liberty, fewer apparatchiks telling you what to do. Like the council losers who tell you how high your hedges have to be. Fuck your sense of beauty. I like high hedges.
    8. No more zoning regulations that fatten the pockets of democrat thugs in NYC, SFO, Chicago, Baltimore, D.C., and L.A.. Say Hello to the homeless.
    9. Education should be local. And yes, of course the parents have a right to teach their children. Get your demothug hands away from my kids you sick son of a bitch.
    10. peace through strength. No covert and overt wars unless it’s to protect American liberty from some EURO trash like Hitler.

    The better policy for America?

    The legend, the magnificent, the hero, the amazing…


  2. Gravatar of nick nick
    14. November 2021 at 16:38

    just want to add that our county now requires us to wear vests on the lake.

    This is Sumner’s liberal party in action. Tyrannical monsters.

    Who cares if I die. It’s my problem. Not yours. Stop worrying about me. Your empathy and tyrannical regulations are unwanted.

  3. Gravatar of rinat rinat
    14. November 2021 at 18:45

    Not related, but I will share this email from a friend of mine who has a Ph.D., and M.D., since his email is relevant to the current state of discourse and the threat of the lefts totalitarianism. I think we can just call them democrats right? Let’s stop calling them “left”, and just call them for what they are. Anything that departs from “government sources” is now labeled “misinformation”. I must be back in the Soviet Union.

    Important and serious news over recent days:
    Dr. David Martin: following corona patents and felonies related to NIH over 20 years-powerful talk:

    David Icke: Connecting dots of truths not on the major media:

    Dr. Zalewski: now the 4th independent researcher with microscopy findings of strange microorganisms in shots:

    Comment: Hydra-looking organisms seems like “ nutty conspiracy theory”, but this is now a finding repeated by different labs. I think that few researchers would want to be associated with “nutty” findings if they really didn’t find them. Why hydras? We don’t know for sure, but Hydras have some genetic abilities that could be related to these genetic shots that may surprise you: Transgenic Hydra embryo microinject Hydra modify its genes Transgenesis in Hydra Doctor: Hydras-Find Info

    The media in Japan pushing Vx for kids but there have been no deaths up to 30, and effectively none up to 40 in an urban population of 126 Mil over 1.5 years.

    Deaths vs Age Japan up to Oct. 25


    I repeat my offer of $10,000 for anyone who can produce research from at least 2 independent centers showing Sars-Cov-2 full-genome sequenced from a purified isolate taken from a sick person, and shown to cause the same disease in an animal from which it is again purified and full-sequenced. Not just an “isolate” in a cell culture which is a mix of billions of genetic material “identified” using pcr (which only amplifies small rna fragments-it does not find a virus*), and not a metagenomic or new-generation sequencing of mixed fluid which can only show a taxonomic in-silico genome derived from a data base not an actual virus or specific genome which is the only report of Sars-Cov-2 to date: in other words, no particle pathogen with the registered virus of Sars-Cov-2 virus has ever been found.

    *Note: to date, neither the CDC, the FDA, the Chinese CDC, any academic or biotech research lab, nor the health authority of any country has a sample of purified biologic material full-sequenced to match the genome registered in Jan 2020 in the GeneBank library. In other words, Sars-Cov-2 is only a computer generated genomic sequence in a library. These are thus “guessed” sequences not actually found, and these guesses were quickly put into a PCR by a group (Drosten et al.) who published their pcr test one day after writing their paper in a journal (Eurosurveillance) with no peer-review (Drosten also owns a PCR company). These guessed sequences were also used in the mRNA shots.

    **Here, in the “discovery” paper of Sars-Cov-2 you can see that no actual virus was found, only computer data-base referenced gene sequences using Metagenomics:

  4. Gravatar of jayne jayne
    14. November 2021 at 19:31

    “When they think of America they don’t visualize a country, they visualize a man.”

    In someways this is true. We visualize small government, and the right for an individual to choose their own path and destiny, free from the machinations of some centralized actor.

    We do see a man. Partly because Trump is a man, **sigh**, but also because he symbolizes what the country ought to be, what it should be, and what it can be. We do see a country. But a country that constitutes individuals with their a variety of wants, needs and desires.

    Conservatives don’t try to place people into groups. We are not utilitarians, and we are not collectivists. We are lockean and Jeffersonian individualists.

  5. Gravatar of Tom M Tom M
    15. November 2021 at 07:01

    Prof. Sumner-

    It’s always disappointing to read the political posts on here.

    “Direction of the country” polls literally ALWAYS show large swings in satisfaction post elections… I would think that’s obvious? TDS is definitely real, but it’s certainly not the boogeyman media/elitists think it is. By all means, I hope the media keeps pushing this narrative, republics will absolutely clean up in 2022+.

    Note- the MAJOR republican wins which occurred at the start of this month were almost entirely by republican candidates who didn’t mention Trump and just put the spotlight on the current agenda items for the democratic party.

    I would definitely recommend the above link for a great read.

  6. Gravatar of Spencer Bradley Hall Spencer Bradley Hall
    15. November 2021 at 07:27

    Read: “Peril” by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa

  7. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    15. November 2021 at 09:14

    Tom, You said:

    “It’s always disappointing to read the political posts on here.”

    It’s even more disappointing when people comment without reading the post. If you had read the post:

    “Sixty three percent of Democrats who participated in the survey think American culture and way of life has changed for the better, which is about the same as it was in 2020.”

    So, what’s your comment again?

  8. Gravatar of Tom M Tom M
    15. November 2021 at 10:20

    Prof Sumner-

    I could be totally wrong, but I read this as:

    2021:63% of Dems think … changed for the better since 1950s
    2020:63% of Dems think … changed for the better since 1950s

    2021:29% of Reps think … changed for the better since 1950s
    2020:46% of Reps think … changed for the better since 1950s
    2016:31% of Reps think … changed for the better since 1950s

    I dont see this as meaningful? I’d be curious to see what the data would be if (for example) DJT won the 2024 election (please god no)- my guess is the Dem % would drop pretty significant?

    Also, it looks like the exact same thing happened with independent voters.

    2020:60% of Ind think… changed for the better since 1950s
    2021:48% of Ind think… changed for the better since 1950s

    I just thinking pointing to this one stat and claiming this is proof of TDS is a bit simplistic no? I could literally point to this exact same data set and make the claim that-

    The election of Joe Biden over DJT makes most Americans feel like things are getting worse.

  9. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    15. November 2021 at 22:13

    Tom, You said:

    “The election of Joe Biden over DJT makes most Americans feel like things are getting worse.”

    But the Americans who think the country is getting worse because of the election are Republicans. (And some independents, but most independents are either Democratic or Republican leaning.)

  10. Gravatar of Matthias Matthias
    15. November 2021 at 22:31

    Scott, if you take the poll at face value, you would be right.

    But you yourself know very well how much store to put in these polls.

  11. Gravatar of J Mann J Mann
    16. November 2021 at 07:00

    It seems to me like there is something more interesting going on with the Republican numbers, but I’m not sure what. I can’t find PRRI’s cross tabs, but based on the chart on page 9 of the report Scott linked:

    – Republicans went from 23% thinking the culture has changed for the better since the 1950s in 2013 to 29% in 2014. That was Obama’s second term, right? I can’t imagine what was going on then.

    – Republicans were pretty flat for most of the Trump administration. It looks like the numbers dropped from 30% to 29% in 2016, then went up very slowly, reaching maybe 33% by the end of 2018, but shot up to 46% in 2020.

    My guess is the sample size isn’t big enough – it would be super weird to have that big a movement from the middle of the Trump administration to the end.

  12. Gravatar of Michael Sandifer Michael Sandifer
    16. November 2021 at 08:28

    So many conservatives today are completely incapable of seeing flaws in Trump, themselves, or their “movement”. Trump himself is deranged, of course, as is the notion that life isn’t better in most ways than in decades past.

  13. Gravatar of J Mann J Mann
    16. November 2021 at 12:03

    Here’s a little more info. I still can’t find cross-tabs for the surveys, but based on the PRRI website you can get the dates of the surveys. I’ve gotten the numbers as close as I can based on eyeballing the chart in the latest report. (Anything with a ~ is my best guess from drawing lines across the chart

    Republicans who think US culture has improved since the 1950s

    Feb 2013 23%
    Dec 2013 ~31%
    Oct 2015 ~32%
    May 2016 ~33%
    Sep 2016 ~31%
    Oct 2018 ~34%
    Sep 2020 46%
    2021 29%

    As I said, it looks more to me that 2020 is an outlier. I tend to suspect a statistical fluke, unless anyone has a theory on why there was such a substantial move from 2018 to 2020.

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