You don’t respect people by killing them

This story caught my eye:

The trailer for Tucker Carlson’s special about the Jan. 6 mob at the U.S. Capitol landed online Oct. 27, and that night Jonah Goldberg sent a text to his business partner, Stephen Hayes: “I’m tempted just to quit Fox over this.”

“I’m game,” Hayes replied. “Totally outrageous. It will lead to violence. Not sure how we can stay.”

And this:

The reality of Fox and similar institutions is that many of their leaders feel that the tight bond between Trump and their audiences or constituents leaves them little choice but to go along, whatever they believe. Fox employees often speak of this in terms of “respecting the audience.” And in a polarized age, the greatest opportunities for ratings, money and attention, as politicians and media outlets left and right have demonstrated, are on the extreme edges of American politics.

Carlson became the network’s most-watched prime-time host by playing explicitly to that fringe, and “Patriot Purge” — through insinuations and imagery — explored an alternate history of Jan. 6 in which the violence was a “false flag” and the consequence has been the persecution of conservatives.

I’d expect anyone with half a brain to know that you respect people by telling them the truth, not by lying to them. But if you’ve watched Fox News . . .

Fox has peddled conspiracy theories about Covid, and as a result their viewers are now much more likely to die of the disease than CNN viewers. That’s not treating them with “respect”; that’s catering to the ignorance of a segment of Fox viewers (not all).

Meanwhile the Democratic Party is making an all out push to elect Donald Trump president in 2024. They seem to be operating with the political theory that, “Meals are especially tasty when you eat the dessert first and the vegetables at the end.”

Have a nice day.

PS. Powell was reappointed. Yawn. Trump will dump him in 2026.



47 Responses to “You don’t respect people by killing them”

  1. Gravatar of sean sean
    22. November 2021 at 12:14

    Not sure why you keep saying things like GOP is more likelly to die from covid.

    Thats a good thing. People paid a costs far in excess of the gains of preventing death in order to prevent death. People should be dying more from covid.

    I would agree of course that there are many people not vaccinated or should be. But more covid death because you are enjoying life is a very good thing.

  2. Gravatar of ORD ORD
    22. November 2021 at 12:27

    Soldiers appear to respect one another a lot, whereas employers rarely respect employees (whatever they may say).

    I disagree with your premise.

  3. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    22. November 2021 at 14:25

    Sean, The cost of getting vaccinated is trivial compared to the risk of Covid.


  4. Gravatar of Matthias Matthias
    22. November 2021 at 17:04

    Scott, you are arguing backwards. For commercial reasons Fox does whatever they do, and ‘respecting the audience’ is just the particular euphemism they use to describe that.

    So it’s not that they are doing respecting wrong, it’s just that the euphemism is, well, a euphemism.

  5. Gravatar of Sean Sean
    22. November 2021 at 20:13

    Whats the point of comparing them to CNN voters? Those are the people who would rather hide than live laugh.

    Gop having an antivaxx segment is far less of a problem than the lefts lockdowns and closing schools. It’s not even debatable.

  6. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    22. November 2021 at 22:47

    Matthias, Yes, I understand that they don’t actually respect their audience. In fact, in private they laugh at their audience.

    Sean, You said:

    “the lefts lockdowns”

    You mean when Trump criticized the Swedes for not locking down their country? You act like Trump wasn’t president in 2020.

    More generally, lunacy on the left doesn’t excuse what Fox News is doing to their viewers. I’ve also done posts about how we are overdoing the Covid endgame, which I predicted would happen a year ago.

    Oh, and “lockdown” is a stupid term. Go to China or Australia if you want to see an actual “lockdown”.

  7. Gravatar of Dzhaughn Dzhaughn
    22. November 2021 at 23:37

    “Fox has peddled conspiracy theories about Covid, and as a result their viewers are now much more likely to die of the disease than CNN viewers.”

    Correlation is not causality.

  8. Gravatar of rinat rinat
    23. November 2021 at 02:05

    Sumner is starting to resemble a dotard.

    Data is not conspiracy.

    When vials are recalled that is not conspiracy.

    When whistleblowers say trial data was manipulated that is not conspiracy.

    When more than 10,000 physicians sign onto a lawsuit saying vaccine mandates are ‘crimes against humanity’ that piece of paper, the signatures, and the attorneys working on the case, are not conspiracy.

    When virologists publish articles in the most prestigious journal (lancet) on how mass vaccinations may cause the virus to spread (shedding) and mutations to increase that is not conspiracy. Thus far, the data shows these virologists have been right.

    Mass vaccinations have been followed with a surge in cases. Colombia is a great example. Colombia ended all covid lockdowns. Their borders are open to the world, without any restrictions. Less than 40% of their population has taken the vaccine. Despite this doomsday scenario peddled by the “sumtards”, the virus is no where to be found. As of yesterday, Colombia had about 1000 cases per day. Less than 1% die.

    When virologists publish articles in the same journal showing little to no efficacy that is not conspiracy.

    VAERS data, mainly filed by medical professionals, is not conspiracy.

    Pfizer’s historical reputation of producing bad products is not conspiracy.

    According to Sumner, the Indians and Filipino who lost their children to Pfizer’s newest and cool malaria drugs, or Nigerian teens who died from their unlicensed “experimental trial”, must believe in some “grand conspiracy”. To Sumner, these things didn’t really happen. The children are really still alive somewhere. Who is the conspiracy theorist?

    Utilitarian Marxists, like Sumner, only care about the end result. They don’t care about the means. In other words, to the “sumtards” when a few children die then so be it.

    People who believe in individual rights know that the means to the end do matter.

    Carlson and Robert F. Kennedy Jr have the courage to point out the facts. They have the courage to let you decide what you want to do: without mandates, without “papers”, and without tyranny!

  9. Gravatar of henry henry
    23. November 2021 at 02:18

    “Matthias, Yes, I understand that they don’t actually respect their audience. In fact, in private they laugh at their audience.”

    – I’m curious: How do you know what they do in private? Are you snooping on Tucker Carlson like the Biden FBI?

    “You mean when Trump criticized the Swedes for not locking down their country? You act like Trump wasn’t president in 2020.”

    – Trump was referring to the borders during the initial stages. Not locking people into their homes like your CCP party, and telling them to show their papers so that they can go to the pharmacy and the food market. echoing what you hear on CNN is not placing words into context. Stop be lazy, and read the full speech.

    Texas and Florida, Cruz, Trump, Rubio and others on are not calling for mandates, lockdowns, and vaccine passports. That is the totalitarian left.

  10. Gravatar of jayne jayne
    23. November 2021 at 02:24

    Trump clearly didn’t read the fifth and six circuit orders.

    The fifth circuit was especially thorough in their analysis.

    Or maybe he’s just ignoring the data, like Marx, Hitler and Stalin, and is pissed that they shut down his dictatorial mandates. We better pack the courts now with activist judges, because he didn’t get his way.

    Another FDR wannabe.

    Only the left complains when a court upholds liberty.

  11. Gravatar of jayne jayne
    23. November 2021 at 02:25

    I remain imperfect. You can replace Trump with Sumner, and you get the point. =/

  12. Gravatar of harry harry
    23. November 2021 at 02:43

    One of the commenters has been using the term “excessive hubris”. I must admit that I do like that term, so I’m going to borrow it. If there was ever an example of “excessive hubris” it is this post.

    1. Sumner has an elementary understanding of biology. Indeed, he’s probably taken two courses. One in high school, and one in college. Yet, he claims all of these dissenting virologists are ‘conspiracy theorist’.

    2. The FDA has not published all of the data. Much of it remains hidden to the public. Nobody has all the facts.

    3. He claims to know what Carlson is thinking in private. Does he have a magic wand? Is he using a crystal ball? Or is Sumner a conspiracy theorist who thinks carlson is “out to get him”. That dangerous carlson, boy, he’s secretly targeting Sumner, lol.

  13. Gravatar of nick nick
    23. November 2021 at 04:07

    I suppose Bohai Harvest RST, and selling anonymous paintings for more than a Picasso are also “conspiracies”

    Sumner doesn’t read. He spends his time watching old movies and bucks games. He then shares the list so he can virtue signal his multicultural wokeness.

    Everything is a conspiracy when you are misinformed.

  14. Gravatar of ankh ankh
    23. November 2021 at 05:26

    If you are interested in the truth Sumner, then I suggest reading “Secret Empires” by Peter Schweizer.

    Unlike your blog posts, Schweizer is impartial. His research is phenomenal, and is supported by hard data. You can confirm everything he states because it is public information.

    Or you can continue to live in your fantasy world…

  15. Gravatar of Michael D Sandifer Michael D Sandifer
    23. November 2021 at 06:52

    I’ve not seen many Trump supporters talk about getting vaccinated, wearing masks, and avoiding crowds to simply be good citizens. Everything is about them and their cult leader. It’s mass narcissism, yet many of them claim to be the only true Americans. They’re full of nonsense about freedom.

    What about responsibility? How can we have a healthy republic, or any kind of society, without some sense of responsibility?

    Civilization requires some mandates. Every country requires taxes, and nearly all subject citizens to military draft, if not nearly 100% compulsory service. How are vaccine mandates different?

    They aren’t even new, in the US. Most schools have been requiring students to ba vaccinated against diseases such mumps, measles, small pox, polio, and TB for generations. The polio vaccine was far more dangerous than any Covid vaccine when initially released. Granted, polio was a more dangerous disease.

    But that said, around 15% of unvaccinated Covid patients end up with long Covid symptoms, many of which may be permanent. This possibly reflects permanent damages in many cases, to organs such as the brain, heart, lungs, and liver. Moreover, as if ICU costs weren’t high enough, how expensive will it be to treat these long Covid symptoms? How much productivity will be lost, and how many will receive disability payments, as a result of permanent injury? In the US, most have their healthcare costs subsidized by the government in some fashion.

    We should those of us responsible enough to get vaccinated pay for those who don’t? Why should we tolerate the weakening of our country via higher healthcare costs, lost output due to extended measures to control the spread due to the unvaccinated, and permanently lost productivity?

    This is a very dangerous, but if it were closer in danger to say, small pox, I’m pretty confident that even most Trump supporters would support vaccine mandates. Part of the problem is innumeracy.

  16. Gravatar of rinat rinat
    23. November 2021 at 08:29

    Yet, another example of fake news from the overtly totalitarian left.

    I hate everything about Maduro. And there is nothing appealing about Cuba. But to imply that the elections were rigged because Cuba congratulated him before the official tally is nonsense.

    The exit polls show that he has overwhelming support – mostly because of U.S. and European intervnetionism. There is a growing body of people, globally, who don’t support unelected UN thugs intervening in their political affairs.

    Maduro, Putin, Assad, Duterte & Trump supporters, among other conservatives in Europe, all constitute the same growing body of worldwide dissenters who want local representation. The UN is threatening Duterte through the corrupt ICC simply because he carried out a policy that had 80% support.

    The filipino people want Manila to be in charge of their destiny, and they want those politicians to be voted into office. No filipino voted for a brussels apparatchik to place their nose into internal affairs.

    The Filipinos want drug lords, and their peddlers, to be shot because they destroy communities.

    It was no different in the wild west. Frontier justice was community justice. You cause problems in a community, you won’t be there for very long! The community didn’t need Washington to step in.

  17. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    23. November 2021 at 10:10

    Michael, You said:

    “Every country requires taxes, and nearly all subject citizens to military draft”

    Is that true?

  18. Gravatar of steve steve
    23. November 2021 at 13:01

    At this point I cant tell if people really dont know what VAERS does or if they know, dont care and just want to lie about it. At any rate it does at least make me smile every time I read it since it was a friend of a friend who submitted and got VAERS to accept his claim that a vaccine turned him into the Hulk.

    Scott- No worries. The Democrats are paying millions off illegals to vote so that will offset all the dumb stuff they are doing. Some day the GOP will figure out how you manage to pay and keep quiet such a giant effort involving millions of people, but until then there is no need for competency by Democrats!


  19. Gravatar of Student Student
    23. November 2021 at 15:02

    Back in March/April 2020 when I used a simple comparison of Ro and IFR (assuming 0.005 at that time) between the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and SARS-Cov2 to put the over/under at 1 million American deaths… and you said there would be no way it would get that high… I don’t think either of us thought a major conservative news outlet would encourage people not to take the trump vaccine… This is almost as bad as liberal news outlets downplaying the fact we murder about this many of our own babies every year. What a wild world.

  20. Gravatar of Michael SANDIFER Michael SANDIFER
    23. November 2021 at 15:05


    On the draft, having looked it up, currently a little less than a third of countries in the world have a military draft system or compulsory military service. As recently as the 1960s, most countries in the world had such systems, and the proportion was over 80% in the first half of the 20th century.

    Obviously, the US does not have an active draft, but still has the selective service system and had an active draft as recently as the 1970s. I include the US in the nearly 1/3 of countries above.

    My main point is, it has not been uncommon historically for countries to have mandatory military service, particularly in times of war. The world’s gotten more peaceful over the decades, so mandatory military service has become less popular, but there are hints of the trend reversing as global security is becoming less certain. My impression is that most countries would institute a draft, if deemed necessary for national security, just as they did during the more violent first half of the 20th century.

    If we only focus on the US,clearly we drafted millions into military service even to fight wars in far flung countires that had little to do with any existential threats.

    And, as I pointed out, vaccine mandates are certainly nothing new, and compulsory sacrifice is sometimes a necessary price for civilization.

  21. Gravatar of Student Student
    23. November 2021 at 15:29

    Michael Sandifer,

    I find you to be reasonable… so I must ask, do you believe in compulsory sacrifice for the sake of the children people procreate… or do they have the option of sacrificing their children, rather than themselves, upon the alter of economic convenience?

  22. Gravatar of Michael D Sandifer Michael D Sandifer
    23. November 2021 at 17:23


    I’m not sure I understand your question. I certainly don’t see getting what appear to be the safest vaccines ever developed as much of a sacrifice anyway, and the economic costs of providing vaccines free are vastly, vastly dwarfed by the costs of not having mass vaccination. This is not a mere question of “economic convenience”, whether talking about the costs of an out of control pandemic, or the risk of losing a major war. This pandemic was costing trillions of dollars/year in lost output in the US alone, to say nothing of the concurrent cost of the fiscal support.

    When it comes to sacrificing children, I can’t say I understand your point, but I view it from an evolutionary perspective. Parents are generally willing to send their 17 year-olds off to war when it is expected to protect an environment conducive to passing shared genes. Children who are 17 might be risked by parents to protect other offspring, and even more likely, to protect blood siblings who share 100% of their genes, as opposed to 50%.

  23. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    23. November 2021 at 19:58

    Steve, Careful, many of my commenters won’t even recognize you are being sarcastic.

    Student, You deserve a lot of credit for being correct. I was totally wrong, although if I’d lived in Australia I would have been right. 🙂

  24. Gravatar of Student Student
    23. November 2021 at 20:13


    I think you do. My body my choice is a Twitter version of it. But it’s true we abort this many of our own children every year. And if if U cant sacrifice for your own children… is it really surprising we don’t do a simple thing like get a vax that clearly works and would end this thing if everyone got it? People are crazy. Lol.

  25. Gravatar of janice janice
    24. November 2021 at 02:54

    The left/communist/sumner brain:

    1. I took the vaccine; I’m so virtuous and obedient.
    2. Government & Big Pharma says its good for you. Just take it.
    3. Individuals are so selfish. JUST TAKE IT.
    4. If you don’t do what I tell you to do, I will mandate for all.
    5. Fine you are all selfish. I will mandate for everyone.
    6. What??? Sweeping mandates are unconstitutional? Judges are racist.
    7. I hate the constitution. The constitution is racist.
    8. I am so unselfish, so I will destroy the bill of rights that protects individuals. Pack the courts. Destroy the bill of rights.
    9. I succeeded. Now you will take all the vaccines I want you son of bitches! hahahaha
    10. I’m so virtuous and unselfish.

    The left has lost their minds.

    Take the red pill and move that pendulum back to the center.

  26. Gravatar of Michael D Sandifer Michael D Sandifer
    24. November 2021 at 08:26


    I don’t see much good coming from governments trying to force women to carry pregnancies to term, even when rape and incest aren’t involved. In fact, even outright infanticide by parents is a very natural phenomenon under some circumstances, as the mathematics of inclusive fitness and the commonality in parts of the world at various times demonstrate.

    That’s obviously not a PC or emotionally comfortable perspective, but I believe it’s the truth.

    But, even apart from that, I see no reason to consider fetuses as children, much less children to have the right to try to exist outside the womb at a mother’s expense.

    The US needs higher population growth, but increased immigration makes way more sense than abortion restrictions, practically and morally. Adult immigrants can add to our total outpjt and productivity growth right now. We don’t have to wait for them to grow up.

    Also, how is trying to force women to have kids they don’t want while having draconian immigration restrictions that keep people out who need to support themselves and often their families good morality?

    Lastly, don’t forget about the unintended consequences of abortion restrictions. Some women are desperate enough to try to take matters into their own hands, or try dangerous black market solutions.

    The abortion issue, in my mind, has nothing to do with the shared responsibility that comes with paying taxes, fighting wars, or defending public health during a pandemic.

    Also, I suspect that if we had a breakout of say, a new form of small pox, in which we all see people we know dying without a vaccine, vaccine mandates would suddenly become popular, even on the right. Innumeracy and a general perceived low level of danger is a big part of why many are comfortable with policies that allowed so many to die of Covid.

  27. Gravatar of Brian Donohue Brian Donohue
    24. November 2021 at 16:55

    1. Stephen Hayes will forever be remembered as author of “The Connection: How al Qaeda’s Collaboration with Saddam Hussein Has Endangered America”. All in a good cause lol.

    2. Thoughts on this Ray Epps business?

  28. Gravatar of janice janice
    25. November 2021 at 06:08

    Strange that 20 year old’s with incredible fit body’s keep collapsing.

    But don’t ask any questions. Don’t say anything bad about Big Pharma or myocarditis, or their history of producing products that are dangerous to the heart; also, don’t point to the poor track record of the federal reserve, or the poor track record of socialists and their totalitarian communists.

    Just do what you are told. Get the vaccine!

  29. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    25. November 2021 at 11:06

    Brian, Epps?

    Now I hear twilight zone music in my hear when I read your comments.

  30. Gravatar of Steve Steve
    25. November 2021 at 18:05

    Back in March 2020, I predicted 5 million Americans would die from the Chinavirus. It looks like my prediction will be numerically correct, but I didn’t anticipate that the deaths would occur over a 10 to 15 year period rather than a 6 to 12 month period.

    Ceteris Paribus, the vaccines are reasonably effective at preventing severe disease, but there are two major problems.

    The first is that vaccines accelerate spread through risk compensation. The reduction in viral shedding to small compared to the increased activity of the vaccinated.

    The second problem is that the so-called ‘immunity’ only lasts for 6 months or so. Fauci more or less admitted that the strategy is hoped-based, that enough jabs might eventually produce a T-cell response instead of the short-term antibody sugar rush we’ve seen.

    My other prediction is that by 2030, even Sumner will refuse his 20th booster jab. The vaccines have uncommon (but not rare) cardiovascular and neurological side-effects. The cumulative odds of these side effects will go up with excessive jabbing.

    Finally, we should all admit there is no material difference between Biden’s Covid policy and Trump’s Covid policy. Both are based on Fauciism, which is an all-in bet on mrna vaccination. Nothing else is on the table.

    The Biden Regime intentionally cut off life-saving medicine (mAbs) to Florida out of political spite. Two months later, Florida has the lowest case rate in the national while Michigan is worst. And the CDC is outright falsifying science to make the case that vaccinated immunity is better than natural immunity. Good luck getting accurate data much less the personal freedom to decide on accepting the semi-annual jab.

  31. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    26. November 2021 at 14:57

    Steve, So why don’t you think this new Pfizer drug will cure Covid? The test looked incredibly positive. And isn’t a cocktail of drugs coming soon (which would be even more effective)?

    (Not saying you are definitely wrong—I’ve been wrong in the past on the death total.)

    “The Biden Regime intentionally cut off life-saving medicine (mAbs) to Florida out of political spite.”


    You said:

    “outright falsifying science”

    For a guy complaining about bad science, your comment has an awful lots of outright falsehoods.

    And I’ll be happy if I’m even still alive in 2030—“side effects” of vaccines are the LEAST of my concerns.

  32. Gravatar of nick nick
    26. November 2021 at 15:26

    megaloser Scott “ccp” Sumner, along with Klaus “Lord Voldermort” Schwab, will run more fear campaigns over the new “deadly” strain.

    Their “smash and grab” campaigned is meant to destroy small businesses, so billionaires can swoop in and buy everything up.

    America should ignore these collectivist, utilitarian tyrants, and smash their hocruxes (amazon, microsoft, google, twitter and apple). Then we need to feed Sumtard, and klausermorts bodies to the masses for revenge.

  33. Gravatar of Steve Steve
    26. November 2021 at 15:26

    Biden only ordered 10 million courses of the Pfizer drug.

    You have to get symptomatically sick first, realize you need the drug, and get approved for a treatment that will certainly be rationed. Perhaps it will save lives, but it won’t slow the spread.

    As for mAbs, here’s the capricious cutoff of Florida blaming ‘equity’. Everyone with a brain knows the real reason:

    The states that currently have the highest case rate are Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Maine, and New Mexico. All Biden voting states. Michigan is a little behind, but the other five all have above average vaccination rates.

    There’s no endgame here, other than Fauciism and semiannual mrna boosters.

    As for Fauciism, read what Scott Atlas had to say. He’s never worked with people with such low level of competency before (e.g., Fauci, Birx) and he [Atlas] was the only person in the Coronavirus meetings to bother reading the academic literature on Covid.

  34. Gravatar of Steve Steve
    26. November 2021 at 15:34

    For those that don’t have a brain, here’s the reason Biden abruptly cut off mAbs to Florida. He’s pretty explicit.

    Biden tells DeSantis to ‘get out of the way’ amid Covid surge

  35. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    27. November 2021 at 12:31

    Steve, LOL, your source is DeSantis?!?!?! Is this a joke?

    And read Scott Atlas? Do you think I’m an idiot?

    BTW, I’ve never defended “Fauciism”, so I don’t know what that comment is addressing.

    If you want to be taken seriously here, quote some intelligent sources.

  36. Gravatar of Rien Huizer Rien Huizer
    28. November 2021 at 06:27


    I had not seen your blog for quite a while but when I did again, I discovered that it has morphed into a place where non-experts exchange unreliable information about an infectious disease. Why? You are not a biologist and from what I read, neither are your guests..

  37. Gravatar of Rien Huizer Rien Huizer
    28. November 2021 at 06:45


    Interesting to see remarks on compulsory military service. Conscript armies dte from around the Enlightenment and partially replaced much older systems of citizen’s defense (especially prevalent in city states where the city or guilds would maintain semi volunteer militias and, on the other hand, mercenary armies that would generally outperform those m militias but tended to be unreliable unless the relevant Prince was perceived as particularly strong. As nation states grew in structure and sophistication, three supporing systems (culminating in Napoleon’s France and more or less simultaneously, Prussia, arose: Coscription, universal primary education and basic forms of social care, the latter the most recent arrival (Bismarck for instance). Most NATO countries have moved to purely professional armies (in my days the Army was a glorified militia filled with very unhappy youths who saw this as emprisonment (the Navy and Airrforce less so) for a variety of reasons but often maintained the residual capacity to call up conscripts. In a country like Germany, converting the Bundeswehr into a purely professional army is still contested and the current members are volunteers and the government is keen on averting the wrond sort of perceptions.

  38. Gravatar of Michael D Sandifer Michael D Sandifer
    28. November 2021 at 13:22

    Rien Huizer,

    Yes, my understanding of the history is largely the same. I got the numbers I used from a recent economist article.

  39. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    28. November 2021 at 13:22

    Rien, Yes, my comment section is full of nutty conspiracy theorists. I believe the medical information I provide (vaccines help, etc.) is accurate, although of course you are free to disagree.

  40. Gravatar of Rien Huizer Rien Huizer
    29. November 2021 at 07:35


    My disagreement was with your friend Steve. And I wholeheartedly agree that the Democratic Party is not really doing its best to win the next 2 elections. To what extent that will bring Mr Trump back may be another matter. It could be worse. His role in policymaking looked rather superficial imo. Others benefited from his presence and behavior to get the policies they wanted, in my humble opinion of course. In fact the people who manage things in the Republican Party are doing a much better job (in Macchiavellian terms not in welfare or moral ones) than they are getting credit for. The Supreme Court was a prime example and gerrymandering will close the door for a decade I reckon. Idealists in the Democratic Party would benefit from an introductory course in Politics (although some bright sparks got very safe seats probably at the cost of the greater Party interest and that is good politics too, in a way). Gueass your warnings are appropriate and unlikely to have effect..

  41. Gravatar of Steve Steve
    29. November 2021 at 08:08

    And read Scott Atlas? Do you think I’m an idiot?

    Are you baiting me? Absolutely, yes, I think you are a grade A+ idiot.

  42. Gravatar of Steve Steve
    29. November 2021 at 08:09

    Yes you are a Completely incapable of critical thought A++ grade idiot, just to be clear where I’m coming from.

  43. Gravatar of Steve Steve
    29. November 2021 at 08:20

    This board is absolutely nuts. Michael D Sandifer is a hardened fascist, Rien Huizer is a clueless clown, Sumner is a China propagandist.

    California (America’s dumbest state, displacing West Virginia) has a higher age-adjusted mortality rate than Florida, and America’s highest illiteracy rate. Seems like it’s worth asking why the most locked down state has a worse outcome than the least locked down state.

    Fauci and Birx get their ‘science’ from the Communists at New York Times; they don’t read research. It’s been a communist circle jerk from day one. Not to mention Fauci funding the Wuhan Lab and trying to cover up the lab leak from day one. Biden employing Fauci is purely a troll of truth-seekers as he runs the most dishonest administration in world history…

  44. Gravatar of Steve Steve
    29. November 2021 at 09:46

    The people supporting Fauci are defending a modern day Josef Mengele. I hope they are willing to accept the eternal moral consequences of that. I certainly won’t shut up about it.

    Early in the pandemic, when the virus information was sparse, Fauci made a decision to collude with Daszak and Zuckerberg to silence all inquiry… since then the information has all pointed to Fauci. But Fauci a.k.a., “I AM THE SCIENCE”, has seen the loyalty he can acquire by becoming shamelessly political, and he has concluded that offers him an escape hatch from any consequences. What an utter disgrace!

  45. Gravatar of Carl Carl
    30. November 2021 at 07:02

    It’s certainly clear you won’t shut up about it. That much we can all agree on.

  46. Gravatar of msgkings msgkings
    30. November 2021 at 07:52

    Steve is the hero we’ve been waiting for.

  47. Gravatar of nick nick
    2. December 2021 at 10:19

    Look at one of Sumner’s commie’s in Texas.

    Is there anything more disgusting. The face, the personality, the lack of social skills, the totalitarianism, the hatred in her voice towards anyone who disagrees with her.

    She looks like a demon. And these people, like Commie Sumner, are teaching your children!

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