Who does the GOP choose to expel?

Consider the following two women:

Cindy McCain, wife of John McCain. She voted for Biden out of disgust for Trump. (Note that in 2016, 4 of the 5 living GOP presidential candidates also refused to vote for Trump.)

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. She has a history of extreme views:

Greene (R-Ga.) filled her feed with extremist content for years before she was elected in November, becoming the first open supporter of QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims, to win a seat in Congress. In a January 2019 post, Greene “liked” a comment advocating “a bullet to the head” of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), according to a screenshot published by CNN’s KFile. . . .

In now-deleted posts, Greene “liked” one comment encouraging her to “beat Pelosi’s a–” and another that advocated Pelosi’s ouster “through removal or death, doesn’t matter, as long as she goes.”

In others, she criticized FBI agents not being sufficiently loyal to Trump. She “liked” one comment that proposed capital punishment for those law enforcement officials, reading: “Trump already said there were some great ones working with FBI but some have fallen and quite frankly need to be hung for TREASON!”

Which of these two women was recently expelled from the Republican Party?

Today, the QAnon mindset is increasingly prevalent within the GOP. For instance, the Republican Party of Oregon has publicly endorsed the loony theory that the mob that stormed the Capitol was comprised of left wingers disguised as Trumpistas.

The Northwest office of the Anti-Defamation League issued a statement Tuesday, calling the comparison “offensive” and “absurd.”

“The violence at the US Capitol on January 6th was a large-scale physical assault on our nation’s democratic values and institutions perpetrated by right-wing conspiracy theorists, extremists, and supporters of former President Trump. That is a fact,” the ADL wrote.

The civil rights organization also said Oregon Republicans were misusing history when referencing the Reichstag fire to “advance a baseless conspiracy theory.”

“Such a comparison cheapens one of the most significant moments leading up to Holocaust and is extremely inappropriate,” the organization wrote.

As more people leave the GOP in disgust, the lunatic fringe will gain ever greater control over the party. To answer the question in the post title, it was Cindy McCain that was expelled by the Arizona GOP:

Referencing the more than 9,200 Republicans who left the [Arizona] party since January 6, Hamer fears the political outcome for Republicans. “This party is being run by a fringe, essentially calling for a purge,” Hamer said. “This is a party that lost the White House, two Senate races, and shows no interest in bringing people together and certainly no interest in expanding the base of Republicans. It’s turned into the circular firing squad.”


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33 Responses to “Who does the GOP choose to expel?”

  1. Gravatar of Michael Sandifer Michael Sandifer
    27. January 2021 at 18:44

    It’s a compliment to be expelled by these people.

  2. Gravatar of David S David S
    28. January 2021 at 03:17

    I bet that Trump is starting to look forward to his impeachment trial because it’s his comeback show, and Americans love comebacks. He’s also going to be the main act during the 2022 midterms—anyone he endorses will probably win. And he’ll keep media attention by teasing a 2024 run for the next four years.

    And why aren’t Democrats on attack mode? We doesn’t grasp how much damage can be caused by the likes of Bobert and Greene and Hawley.

  3. Gravatar of Cove77 Cove77
    28. January 2021 at 04:05

    You’d think a Trump endorsement would be worth less following November’s defeat, the Georgia debacle, and subsequent Capitol insurrection. It’s incredible how fast the Capitol Hill outrage has subsided. It was only 3 weeks ago.

  4. Gravatar of foosion foosion
    28. January 2021 at 04:18

    They seem to have concluded that they lost because too many people voted rather than they have become the lunatic fringe. The obvious answer is to restrict voting rights, plus more extreme gerrymandering and other ways of ensuring minority rule. For example, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-reform-coronavirus Or look at the Senate, which is split 50/50 despite tens of millions more people represented by D Senators than R senators.

  5. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 08:39

    Obsessing over who is expelled or not expelled from the Republican party when Biden is pushing CRT (Critical Race Theory), amounts to debating about ‘how many angels can dance on a head of a pin”.

    Did I mention that Biden is working to abolish Women’s sports?

    Consider the following from Bari Weiss

    “Consider the fact that Hillary Clinton recorded a podcast with Nancy Pelosi this week in which she said of Trump: “I would love to see his phone records to see whether he was talking to Putin the day that the insurgents invaded our Capitol.” And the speaker of the House responded: “All roads lead to Putin.”

    Really? That’s still the play after four years?

    The group that fell for Russiagate has long owned the culture. Now it’s won the presidency and controls Congress. What will happen?”

    Worry about what is going on in the Republican party is absurd when White House and Congress have made racism official public policy.

  6. Gravatar of bb bb
    28. January 2021 at 08:52

    Scott,
    Not to pile on, but Marjorie T Greene has also pushed the conspiracy theory that the Sandy Hook shooting was a “false-flag operation by the left”, she personally harassed survivors of the Parkland school shooting, and she went to the Capitol in 2019 hoping to harass Ilhan Omar about taking the oath of office with the bible.

  7. Gravatar of bb bb
    28. January 2021 at 09:00

    @Peter,
    My daughter has played soccer against trans kids a few times over the last couple of years. It’s really not that big of a deal.
    You wrote: “The group that fell for Russiagate has long owned the culture. Now it’s won the presidency and controls Congress. What will happen?””
    Nothing will happen. They will pass a relief package that includes things you don’t believe in. They might raise some taxes back to pre-Trump levels. They will try to pass the voting rights act, but McConnel will likely block it. The might raise the minimum wage. That’s what I think they will happen? What do you think will happen?

  8. Gravatar of Michael Rulle Michael Rulle
    28. January 2021 at 09:03

    The GOP has an internal fight. Not good for them. But it is apparent each side wants to the other to go away—-but it’s not a “cancel” move as much as it is a political fight. Marjorie Greene is a kook—-but she has her teeny set of believers. Oddly, the GOP are not out to cancel the Dems—-what’s with that? Once again, no comment on Dems (:-)) But Dems are vocal —-a good portion —-on canceling GOP or Trump supporters.
    Literally—-not just politically.

    How you can equate the GOP internal fight with what Dems are doing is strange to me. We all hear what we want to hear and disregard the rest. Except not a Boxer in site.

  9. Gravatar of jj jj
    28. January 2021 at 09:06

    And I always thought the left would get there first. Life continues to surprise.

  10. Gravatar of xu xu
    28. January 2021 at 09:30

    QAnon is not a singular movement.

    But their two core beliefs:

    1. New World govt.
    2. Pedophilia

    Both are unequivocally true.

    1. WEF is openly propagating a new world order, in which the masses live under a one world government (“build back better”), and where communism is the preferred mode of production. This is NOT a grand conspiracy. Indeed, Klaus Schwab wrote an entire book about this dystopian future.

    2. Pedophilia exists.

    So we know those two precepts are true.

    Sumner doesn’t like truth. But he does advocate for untruth.

    Let’s look at the BLM precepts he supports and advocates for.

    1. White & Asian people are “privileged”, regardless of their background, and that these white and asian people need to give up their jobs, careers, and property to the blacks. In addition to this, we have to deal with the racist school quota’s that keep many qualified Asians & Whites out of the classroom, in favor of an underqualified black. America only has to look north of the border to see how dangerous quota’s can become (merit is dead). Follow SAFS.CA to get the latest.

    2. They believe in this crazy concept called “historical culpability”, which, in their view, means if your ancestor owned slaves you should go to jail. That’s an interesting proposition. Because if adopted, it’s likely everybody will be in jail. The ottomans enslaved 15M white’s, the Barbary pirates (blacks) enslaved whites. Blacks enslaved Blacks. Chinese enslaved Chinese. The list goes on and on and on…..

    Is there anyone with a pure and innocent bloodline? Hitler thought so. And so does BLM!

    3. They believe that because black men are disproportionally killed, that police officers must be racist. What they don’t tell you is that 50% of all violent crimes are committed by blacks. If you have more violent interactions with officers, then you probably will have a disproportionate number of deaths. Glenn Loury does a great job at destroying their new racist religion.

    In Summary, the “Sumner Hypocrisy” now supports BLM lunatics who propagate untruth, but will attack QAnon people for believing in what we all know to be true. Yes, there are some bizarre QAnon people claiming to be shamans and aliens, but the vast majority believe in the aforementioned precepts.

    Sumner has a strange delusion about John McCain. McCain was called songbird for a reason. He finished last in his class at the Naval Academy, was only accepted because his Daddy was a general, and spent most of his later years answering to special interests. Everyone who served with him said he was a “loser” and a “traitor”.

    Cindy McCain, and the McCain’s are corrupt. They are party to the Washington elite, and always have been.

    Rand Paul, his father, and Ted Cruz are fighters, and have always stood up for the people.

    Not silly songbird.

  11. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 09:49

    bb, My concern(s) are with respect to what has already happened.

    Biden has embraced/endorsed CRT. That’s wrong at many levels.

    Biden has moved to abolish women’s sports. That’s wrong at many levels.

    As for the evils of trans fanaticism, Fallon Fox (a biological man) broke Tamika Brents skull in a MMA fight. Having men fight women is wrong.

    The biggest differences between men and women emerge after puberty. See “Keeping Male Bodies Out of Women’s Rugby” (https://quillette.com/2020/09/27/keeping-male-bodies-out-of-womens-rugby/) and “Men are stronger than women (on average)” (https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2015/02/25/men-are-stronger-than-women-on-average/)

  12. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 09:51

    bb, I don’t mean to split hairs here… However, I didn’t write those words, I quoted them. Do I believe them? Yes, I do. However, it remains true that I quoted them, not wrote them.

  13. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    28. January 2021 at 10:16

    David, Yes, the GOP is still controlled by Trump. They are terrified of him.

    Cove77, You said:

    “You’d think a Trump endorsement would be worth less”

    You’d think GOP voters would not have wanted to nominate a lunatic back in 2016.

    Peter, You said:

    “Did I mention that Biden is working to abolish Women’s sports?”

    You did now!

    I’m noticing a pattern in your comments. They are all batshit crazy.

  14. Gravatar of bb bb
    28. January 2021 at 10:40

    Peter,
    A few weeks ago Marjorie T Greene types stormed the Capitol and beat a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. They were trying to overturn a fair election. They were attempting to overthrow the government. That to me is much more frightening than “Biden has embraced/endorsed CRT”. MTG embraces dangerous conspiracy theories like Q. CRT is a piece of philosophy that you disagree with, I’m guessing because of postmodernism or moral relativism. CRT is not a threat to democracy.
    He did not move to “abolish” women’s sports. That’s hyperbole. He is trying to deliver some equity to a group of people who have long been marginalized. To be clear, my post puberty daughter has played travel soccer against trans kids, and it wasn’t a big deal. MMA is not a school sport. The NCAA already allows trans athletes. There really aren’t that many trans athletes out there. The order may have some unintended consequences, in which case it should be changed, but this feels like an overreaction.
    The fact that women’s sports and CRT are the two things you worry most about tells me that we are doing pretty well.

  15. Gravatar of Mark Z Mark Z
    28. January 2021 at 13:03

    Scott, I’ve never actually seen anyone support affirmative action to help white people. Where the Asian population is high enough, it will help them (whether incidentally or by surreptitious design, is a matter of speculation of supporters’ motives) like Ivy League Schools, while where it isn’t as high, like University of Michigan (at least last time I read about it), it hurt white students (it hurt Asians more of course) and benefit black and hispanic students. I’m inclined to take supporters’ at their word that they do it on behalf of black and hispanic students. Most white people oppose affirmative action, even in constituencies where it might be in their self-interest.

    But when Asians are 50% of qualified applicants, you can’t raise the bar on white students to make white the ‘neutral race’ without massively diminishing black and hispanic admission. The only way to artificially inflate black and hispanic admissions without increasing white admissions too in many scenarios would be to apply a fixed coefficient to each racial group based on ad hoc assessment of how good or bad that race is, and I think that would gross out even many of the most dedicated woke types.

  16. Gravatar of Sean Sean
    28. January 2021 at 14:30

    I like your other blog better. As you’ve said. National politics are just a disgrace no matter what team you play for. Dems are as bad as trump with their Russia delusions. I can’t stand how either side talks about the other. I don’t know who launched the battle but it’s terrible and depressing to all Americans.

  17. Gravatar of msgkings msgkings
    28. January 2021 at 16:04

    @Sean:

    Most date the current partisan divide beginning with Clinton vs Gingrich, especially when he got impeached for no good reason. It has escalated from there, with the internet/social media being the force multiplier. I am not sure how it ends.

  18. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 16:56

    Mark Z, When AA (“holistic admissions”) was invented the very public and avowed goal was to reduce Jewish admissions and thereby raise non-Jewish admissions. Back then raising non-Jewish white admissions was very much a goal. See

    “Harvard once capped the number of Jews. Is it doing the same thing to Asian Americans now?”
    (https://www.jta.org/2018/10/17/united-states/harvard-once-capped-the-number-of-jews-is-it-doing-the-same-thing-to-asians-now). Quote

    “In 1922, Harvard University President Abbott Lawrence Lowell had a problem: His school had too many Jews. At least that’s what he thought.

    As the country’s Jewish population ballooned in the early 20th century, the Jewish proportion of Harvard students increased exponentially, too. In 1900, just 7 percent of the Ivy League school’s students were Jewish. By 1922, the figure was 21.5 percent.

    Lowell felt that some were of deficient character. And even if they weren’t, he feared they would drive away potential White Anglo-Saxon Protestant students who would go on to be America’s political and economic elite — as well as future donors to schools like Harvard.

    “The summer hotel that is ruined by admitting Jews meets its fate, not because the Jews it admits are of bad character, but because they drive away the Gentiles, and then after the Gentiles have left, they leave also,” he wrote in a letter to a philosophy professor, as quoted in the book “The Chosen: The Hidden History of Admission and Exclusion at Harvard, Yale and Princeton,” by Jerome Karabel.
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    In response to a letter from an alumnus bemoaning that Harvard was no longer a “white man’s” college, Lowell wrote that he “had foreseen the peril of having too large a number of an alien race, and had tried to prevent it.””

  19. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 17:02

    Abigail Shrier wrote the following

    “Joe Biden’s First Day Began the End of Girls’ Sports – An executive order rigs competition by requiring that biological boys be allowed to compete against girls.”
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bidens-first-day-began-the-end-of-girls-sports-11611341066

    I guess she must be ‘batshit crazy’.

    I think having biological men compete with women is ‘batshit crazy’.

    I think having intact biological men shower with women is ‘batshit crazy’.

    JK Rowling (“this is not a drill”) must also be ‘batshit crazy’.

    Lots of this ‘batshit crazy’ stuff going around these days.

  20. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 17:14

    bb,

    Abigail Shrier wrote the following

    “Joe Biden’s First Day Began the End of Girls’ Sports – An executive order rigs competition by requiring that biological boys be allowed to compete against girls.”
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bidens-first-day-began-the-end-of-girls-sports-11611341066

    For better or worse, CRT may be the end of the American system. Quote from Bari Weiss

    “Critical Race Theory is a threat to the most basic foundations of American life, including, but not limited to, equality under the law. It asks us to define ourselves by our immutable characteristics. It pits us against one another in an endless power struggle. It rejects Enlightenment tools of reason and scientific discovery as tainted. And it undermines our common humanity.

    On his first day in office, President Biden rescinded Trump’s executive order. That’s not a good sign.

    Do we still believe in Dr. King’s dream, in which we are all judged by the content of our character and not the color of our skin? Or do enough of us now believe in a kind of collective guilt, that skin color determines our place in a new caste system?”

    The reality is that for every MTG, the US is burdened with 100s or 1000s of ‘diversity’ fanatics with real power.

    Also from Bari Weiss

    “I understand people breathing a sigh of relief. I did. But the Joe Biden presidency will require a different kind of attentiveness. The maladies of the Trump era were painfully obvious, sometimes dangerous, and often clownish. QAnon is not exactly subtle. Leaving aside Majorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert, Trumpian forces don’t hold much power in American life. But the fringe ideologues on the left are savvy, smart, and organized, with purchase at every level of American culture and politics.

    Consider the fact that Hillary Clinton recorded a podcast with Nancy Pelosi this week in which she said of Trump: “I would love to see his phone records to see whether he was talking to Putin the day that the insurgents invaded our Capitol.” And the speaker of the House responded: “All roads lead to Putin.”

    Really? That’s still the play after four years?

    The group that fell for Russiagate has long owned the culture. Now it’s won the presidency and controls Congress. What will happen?”

  21. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 18:18

    bb,

    Caster Semenya (a biological male) beat several real women in the 2012 Olympics. That’s wrong.

    Rachel McKinnon (a biological male) has ‘won’ several bycling championships. That’s wrong.

    In Connecticut, biological men (boys) have been allowed to compete against and defeat real women (girls). That’s wrong.

    In MMA, Fallon Fox (a biological male) broke the skull of Tamika Brents (an actual woman). That’s wrong.

    Quote from Paulo Costa

    ““I don’t want to get into [the personal aspect] of his choice, to be transsexual or not, homosexual or not. What happens here is that a man is fighting against girls, against women, as if he were one. This is absurd, and it can’t be accepted.””

    The transgender fanatics are not just harming the medal prospects of a few elite (in sport) women/girls. The harm goes far beyond that. Quote from Abigail Shrier.

    “What I aim to do, as a journalist, is to investigate cultural phenomena, and here was one worth investigating: Between 2016 and 2017, the number of females seeking gender surgery quadrupled in the United States. Thousands of teen girls across the Western world are not only self-diagnosing with a real dysphoric condition they likely do not have; in many cases, they are obtaining hormones and surgeries following the most cursory diagnostic processes. Schoolteachers, therapists, doctors, surgeons, and medical-accreditation organizations are all rubber-stamping these transitions, often out of fear that doing otherwise will be reported as a sign of “transphobia”—despite growing evidence that most young people who present as trans will eventually desist, and so these interventions will do more harm than good.”

    Biden has made the situation worse. That’s wrong.

    Biden hasn’t been in office for all that long. However, his executive orders show a deep commitment to the far left-fringe of the Democratic party.

  22. Gravatar of msgkings msgkings
    28. January 2021 at 18:39

    @Peter S:

    Between 2016 and 2017 who was president? Biden gets the blame for this trend?

    By the way I do oppose trans women competing against natural women in sport, but it doesn’t keep me up at night.

  23. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    28. January 2021 at 23:08

    In 2016, Obama was president. After January 2017, Trump was president. For better or worse, the rise of the Trans Taliban is a deeper trend in American (and more generally Western) society. Camille Paglia has written about this. Quote

    ““People who live in such times feel that they’re very sophisticated, they’re very cosmopolitan,” she says. But in truth, they are evidence of a civilization that no longer believes in itself. On the edges of that civilization are “people who still believe in heroic masculinity” — the barbarians. Paglia says that this is happening right now, and that there’s this tremendous “disconnect” between a culture that’s infatuated with transgenderism, and “what’s going on ‘out there’.” She sees it as “ominous.” And she’s right to. This insanity cannot last. Again and again I say unto you: if you don’t like the Religious Right, wait till you get the Post-Religious Right. The post-Christian people who are coming don’t give a damn about your feelings.”

  24. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    29. January 2021 at 08:24

    Back in 2008, John McCain ran for president against B. Obama. Of course, Obama won. In the 2008 election I didn’t vote for either of them. I believed that John McCain was real threat to the survival of humanity. In my opinion, he was itching to start a nuclear war with Russia. I didn’t like Obama, but thought that the risk of nuclear war was drastically lower with him.

    13 years later I think I was right. I am proud of not voting for John McCain.

    McCain was a warmonger as was Hillary (Libya anyone). I didn’t vote for either of them which I think was entirely right.

    In my opinion, American foreign policy is divided between the crazies and the sane people. I rank the Clinton’s and Bush (43) as crazy. I rank Bush (41), Obama, and Trump as sane.

  25. Gravatar of Mike Sax Mike Sax
    29. January 2021 at 08:51

    Clearly the GOP in all it’s non-Bayesian wisdom is still the Trump party. After the last disastrous 4 years where they’ve lost everything-the House, Senate, and WH-they aren’t course correcting they’re hugging him closer.

    Biden has already achieved something Trump never did-a positive approval rating

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

  26. Gravatar of Mike Sax Mike Sax
    29. January 2021 at 10:19

    But then again Lee Drutman predicted long before the election that even if the GOP got blown out they likely wouldn’t become more moderate but the opposite.

    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1355184229450207235

    Basically if you’re a GOP moderate you have to either become much less moderate to stay in the party or leave the party as many have done.

  27. Gravatar of J Mann J Mann
    29. January 2021 at 11:32

    Peter, just to clarify, you use US involvement in Libya as evidence that Hillary is an insane warmonger, but Obama is a sane non-warmonger?

    My recollection was that Obama was out front justifying our actions in Libya – do you think Hillary duped him or something?

  28. Gravatar of Mike Sax Mike Sax
    29. January 2021 at 14:01

    “Consider the fact that Hillary Clinton recorded a podcast with Nancy Pelosi this week in which she said of Trump: “I would love to see his phone records to see whether he was talking to Putin the day that the insurgents invaded our Capitol.” And the speaker of the House responded: “All roads lead to Putin.”

    “Really? That’s still the play after four years?”

    Why wouldn’t it still be a thing be in light of the Mueller Report-which showed Russian interference and Trump campaign collusion-and Helsinki-where Trump said he believes what Putin says over our own intel agencies?

    Wether or not Trump spoke to Putin on the day of the violent insurrection he inspired who he did speak to is certainly of great interest to ascertain how deep his complicity in that was-he spoke to the rioters before they rioted.

    I do have to thank you though-as I wasn’t aware of Hillary’s podast and I greatly enjoyed it.

  29. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    30. January 2021 at 07:40

    Mark, If they weren’t trying to help white students they’d treat them the same as Asian students. I get why it’s easier for blacks and Hispanics to be admitted than Asians and whites, they are underrepresented groups. I don’t get why whites are favored over Asians. Or perhaps I do get it and don’t like it. It’s similar to anti-Jewish quotas in the 1920s.

    In the 1920s, the Ivy League schools didn’t think Jewish students had the right sort of leadership skills, and now they think that about Asians.

  30. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    30. January 2021 at 09:06

    J Mann,

    “My recollection was that Obama was out front justifying our actions in Libya – do you think Hillary duped him or something?”

    Yes, I do think Hillary (and others) duped Obama. Why? Because Obama (sotto vocce) says (thinks) the same thing. See “The Obama Doctrine” (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/). Quote

    “But what sealed Obama’s fatalistic view was the failure of his administration’s intervention in Libya, in 2011. That intervention was meant to prevent the country’s then-dictator, Muammar Qaddafi, from slaughtering the people of Benghazi, as he was threatening to do. Obama did not want to join the fight; he was counseled by Joe Biden and his first-term secretary of defense Robert Gates, among others, to steer clear. But a strong faction within the national-security team—Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice, who was then the ambassador to the United Nations, along with Samantha Power, Ben Rhodes, and Antony Blinken, who was then Biden’s national-security adviser—lobbied hard to protect Benghazi, and prevailed. (Biden, who is acerbic about Clinton’s foreign-policy judgment, has said privately, “Hillary just wants to be Golda Meir.”) American bombs fell, the people of Benghazi were spared from what may or may not have been a massacre, and Qaddafi was captured and executed.

    But Obama says today of the intervention, “It didn’t work.” The U.S., he believes, planned the Libya operation carefully—and yet the country is still a disaster.”

  31. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    30. January 2021 at 09:22

    Mike Sax, you wrote

    “Why wouldn’t it still be a thing be in light of the Mueller Report-which showed Russian interference and Trump campaign collusion-and Helsinki-where Trump said he believes what Putin says over our own intel agencies?”

    Still falling (or worse) for Russiagate it would seem. Let’s see what Mueller actually wrote.

    “The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

    Winston Churchill defined a fanatic as

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”

  32. Gravatar of Peter Schaeffer Peter Schaeffer
    30. January 2021 at 09:38

    Scott Summer,

    As I have pointed out (several times), Espenshade and others have shown that whites are not the primary victims or primary beneficiaries of racial quotes (politely call affirmative action).

    The sad truth is that Asian applications are thrown under the proverbial bus to make way for NAMs. The (generally correct) assumption is that Asian’s won’t protest enough to make the policy untenable.

    Of course, if merit-based admissions for whites and Asians were combined with quotas for NAMs, whites would be admitted in smaller numbers. However, that’s not issue at hand.

    The real-world choices are maintaining the status quo (sacrificing Asians for NAMs) and admitting all students based on merit. As has been shown, admitting all students based on merit would have little net impact on white applicants.

  33. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    31. January 2021 at 09:15

    Peter, You said,

    “As has been shown, admitting all students based on merit would have little net impact on white applicants.”

    That has no bearing on anything I wrote. Read my comment again.

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