Where’s the outrage?

America is supposed to be a moral beacon for the world. So why so little commentary about this?

Thank God for the South China Morning Post.



18 Responses to “Where’s the outrage?”

  1. Gravatar of Market Fiscalist Market Fiscalist
    7. January 2021 at 10:47

    We’re too busy growing bananas.

  2. Gravatar of BC BC
    7. January 2021 at 11:28

    No way to blame this on domestic political opponents (although I’m sure some people will try).

  3. Gravatar of Philo Philo
    7. January 2021 at 12:42

    I’m unhappy about this—not “outraged,” because I expect nothing better from Xi. But my unhappiness is no effect.

  4. Gravatar of Frank Frank
    7. January 2021 at 13:23

    Unfortunately, it’s not very newsworthy because it has seems to have been game over for HK for quite some time now. Kind of like Crimea, just not as far along.

  5. Gravatar of Tom Brown Tom Brown
    7. January 2021 at 13:29

    Where’s xu and “friends?” I thought for sure they’d have something to say on this. Oh well, I guess I’ll have to do without. Damn!

  6. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    7. January 2021 at 13:51

    Tom, He’s too busy thinking up excuses for Trump’s behavior.

  7. Gravatar of D.O. D.O.
    7. January 2021 at 14:25

    Our “mainstream media” (whatever that means, Fox and WSJ are as mainstream as any of them) clealry dropping the ball on this. Being outraged with China for HK in addition to nationalist harrangues about trade impoverishing American workers and China military being so scary is too much. My view would be to drop whining about trade and tone down military staff and go more boldly on human rights, but there is no political constituency for it of any size. And obviously, winning anything on human rights is the most difficult thing. Countries can accommodate our trade preferences and even settle some military disputes, but maintaining political control is “who they are”. To put human rights first requires commitment well over what America is willing to sustain now. Otherwise, it is just empty annoying talk.

  8. Gravatar of msgkings msgkings
    7. January 2021 at 14:47

    Here’s what I don’t understand about HK…for centuries it was simply another Chinese port. Then the British took it over, as imperialists used to do back then.

    Finally in 1997 the Chinese got Britain to give it back, with a promise to give it special status for 50 years (not forever). So we’re almost halfway through that period and the Chinese are cracking down some, and while it’s not pleasant, exactly what did we expect would happen over those 50 years? Are we going to be upset when it is completely absorbed into China proper in 2047?

  9. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    7. January 2021 at 14:49

    D.O. I agree. It’s a pity that the US government does seem to care about human rights. Maybe that will change with Biden, but I’m not holding my breath.

  10. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    7. January 2021 at 14:53

    msgkings, It’s an internal Chinese question, as HK is legally a part of China. I wish it were not this way, but there’s nothing we can do to stop China from gradually taking away local control.

    I do think we should have open borders for HK residents; that would be the most effective way to protest the crackdown. Get their talented people to move here.

  11. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    7. January 2021 at 16:55

    Outraged and defeated, that is me.

    But policy in the US is usually made by special interest groups.

    The Apples, the BlackRocks, the Walmarts, the Disneys, the NBAs will determine US policy towards the Xi/CCP.

    Expect abject accommodation by the Biden presidency to the Xi/CCP.

    By the way, no discussion about trade with China is complete without first referencing Michael Pettis’ deeply instructional book “Trade Wars are Class Wars.”

  12. Gravatar of foosion foosion
    7. January 2021 at 17:29

    The US has limited attention span and it’s distracted at the moment, mainly by the latest manifestation of the Trump circus and also the pandemic.

  13. Gravatar of LC LC
    7. January 2021 at 18:43


    There is a Chinese saying that “extreme stupidity (when acted out) is equal to evil”. This mass arrest is extreme stupidity, especially after the Wuhan crisis last year showed the value of having ability to dissent to potentially avert a catastrophe. This plus the recent sentence of a blogger in Wuhan just shows stupidity is alive and well amongst the Chinese government.

  14. Gravatar of Brian Brian
    7. January 2021 at 19:26

    Very large tariffs on things that move in shipping containers just impoverishes workers in China. If a particular export is excessively subsidized then figure out a way to stop that or apply a tariff. The never ending Boeing * Airbus fight shows there is no good solution. It would be better if displaced U.S. manufacturing workers were redeployed in home construction, infrastructure, elder care, product design (software and hardware), and product support (software and hardware). Student visas in exchange for freedom of political speech and freedom of the internet. This is where there is leverage. I know they will poach professors but in a subtle way that will also liberalize China.

  15. Gravatar of Benjamin Cole Benjamin Cole
    8. January 2021 at 00:11

    “Very large tariffs on things that move in shipping containers just impoverishes workers in China.”–Brian

    This is probably not true.

    Michael Pettis posits that China enforces a repressed labor share of income model, to gain export markets. (Germany too, and other Far East nations)

    If China lost export markets, it might be compelled to increase labor share of income, and sell the goods into domestic markets. China workers would do better.

    In any event, read Michael Pettis’ “Trade Wars are Class Wars”

    It is not China v. the US.

    It is globalists, multinationals and Xi/CCP vs the employee class in both nations….

  16. Gravatar of Michael Rulle Michael Rulle
    8. January 2021 at 06:07

    There is a video of Ashli Babbit seconds after she was shot in the back by a cop with a rifle. Mobs are dangerous. She was inside the Capital building and the Mob was trapped. They needed to have a way out but they did not provide one. They were doing a walk thru but the capitol police had no plan. So they boxed them in.

    It was straight out murder. There is a 45 minute video of the Mob. Nothing broken. No screaming. Stupid for sure. But I can only hope our govt officials felt fear. Since this seems to be the first protest they were against.

    This was planned for at least days. How did they not close down the city?

    How many fire mobs did we have last year ? A lot. All defended by our proud new leaders.

    Well, my prediction is we will still spend the next few years screaming about Trump. He is the man on the wall that guys like Scott need. He will support jailing his family. They can’t let him go. We finally have our Goldstein.

    One should actually read 1984. No one does. We are as close to its zeitgeist as we have ever been. Clueless.

  17. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    8. January 2021 at 09:04

    LC and Brian, Good points.

    Ben and Michael. LOL, you guys never give up.

  18. Gravatar of Lizard Man Lizard Man
    9. January 2021 at 09:18

    When has the US been a moral beacon to other nations? Not during my lifetime, though I am younger reptilian than some.

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