Trump’s performance while taking steroids shouldn’t count

When future historians decide whether Trump belongs in the Presidential Hall of Fame, his performance under the influence of steroids should not count.

Just look at Trump’s rapid and complete acceptance of Matt Yglesian fiscal policy:

No president could achieve that sort of head-spinning result without taking drugs. It would not be fair to compare Trump’s fiscal performance with Presidents like Obama and Bush, who did not use any artificial stimulants.

PS. Biden better start taking some stimulants or he might lose this thing.

PPS. Does his neck look thicker?

HT: David Beckworth



13 Responses to “Trump’s performance while taking steroids shouldn’t count”

  1. Gravatar of Student Student
    9. October 2020 at 10:30

    Haha… I know this is a joke, but because I am on this site lately and reading this and was confused about this as a child… corticosteroids and anabolic-androgenic steroids are not the same thing.

    Corticosteroids (like trump is on) are medicines that quickly fight inflammation in your body. anabolic-androgenic steroids are man-made versions of testosterone.

    If not, I would look like Arnold given all the steroids I have taken over the years for to all the allergic reactions I get to crap.

  2. Gravatar of miro miro
    9. October 2020 at 10:36

    If anything, this seems to be Trump at his most rational:

    Even he is starting to see the merits of the 25th!

  3. Gravatar of Gene Frenkle Gene Frenkle
    9. October 2020 at 10:47

    I listened to some of Trump on Rush Limbaugh today and Trump actually said something about Obamacare that is very enlightening in light of the fact the Kushner family is heavily invested in the ACA Exchange subsidies through Oscar Health. So first he said the individual mandate is half of Obamacare which is a total lie, by 2017 it was obvious to everyone that the individual mandate was innocuous with respect to enrollment numbers while having a huge impact on the CBO score. Then Trump said he had the choice of running Obamacare into the ground but instead he chose to make Obamacare the best that it could be…even though it would still be awful. So Kushner was obviously whispering in Trump’s ear relaying advice from his brother on how to optimize the ACA for Oscar Health! So just look at how Oscar went from a seemingly rocky start to growing and on a path to profitability under Trump. Trump is a very poor politician but he is a really good con man!!!

  4. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    9. October 2020 at 10:59

    Gene, You said:

    “but he is a really good con man!!!”

    One would have to be pretty dumb to believe the nonsense that comes out of Trump’s mouth.

  5. Gravatar of Cove77 Cove77
    9. October 2020 at 11:19

    What kind of ratings do you think Trump’s on air physical with Hannity will get tonite?

  6. Gravatar of Gene Frenkle Gene Frenkle
    9. October 2020 at 11:32

    sumner, W Bush bankrupted the Republican Party and the ideology of the Tea Party as personified by Ted Cruz is extremely unpopular. So Rubio was ostensibly a conservative but he ran as a moderate that promoted policies that would funnel money through the tax code to parents of young children…but his attempt to actually do something on immigration made him a hard sell with the moderates that Trump appealed to. So Trump won the Republican nomination with 14 million votes and in a red state like SC he only got 32.5% of the vote in a competitive state nominating contest. Trump’s best state is WV which is one of the whitest states that just happens to have to lowest per capita GDP. I knew an educated person from WV and he made a remark one time about how newer double wides are much better than the single wide he grew up in (he obviously didn’t vote for Trump because he was actually educated with multiple advanced degrees). So people like the uneducated West Virginians are unfortunately the suckers Trump had to con in order to win the nomination…and then it becomes a binary choice against a candidate Republicans had been smearing for almost 30 years!?!

  7. Gravatar of Skeptical Skeptical
    9. October 2020 at 14:08

    I doubt it has anything to do with the dex, see the estimable Kevin Drum on the effects of high dose dex. He’s covered it well as someone who has been taking it regularly for years now as part of his cancer treatment (pbuh)

    No president could achieve that sort of head-spinning result without taking drugs.

    Of course Trump can, because he had no coherent worldview to begin with. He’s not an ideologue, he certainly cares zero % about the deficit or anything else for that matter aside from himself. He’s pure reaction to stimuli through the lens of narcissism and greed combined with a Random Number Generator

    Everyone who tries to model him as anything but instinct, greed and randomness is well, well off the mark.

    It’s no real matter, he’ll be gone in 3 months and then we will have to face the fact that he was only a symptom of our systemic problems.

    Maybe throwing him out of office will be some sort of Girardian mimetic cathartic violence, but we’ll still be stuck with the same completely ineffectual institutions and a low trust society that led to him in the first place

  8. Gravatar of Michael Sandifer Michael Sandifer
    9. October 2020 at 14:29

    It’s rather amazing that, even now, Trump has defenders. One need only witness his public behavior to see enough to draw easy, rational conclusions, and yet here we are.

    It’s obvious that no Trump supporter is worth conversing with on politics, as they are unqualified by some combination of education, intelligence, forthrightness, sanity, and morality.

  9. Gravatar of Benoit Essiambre Benoit Essiambre
    9. October 2020 at 16:16

    > corticosteroids and anabolic-androgenic steroids are not the same thing.

    Corticosteroids can still give you “Moon face”

  10. Gravatar of ssumner ssumner
    9. October 2020 at 17:36

    Skeptical, You need to be more skeptical of my intent. This post was a satire on the debate over the Baseball Hall of Fame.

    You said:

    “and then we will have to face the fact that he was only a symptom of our systemic problems.”

    THAT we agree on!

  11. Gravatar of Matthias Görgens Matthias Görgens
    9. October 2020 at 20:55

    Scott, just like in professional sports, I would assume until proven otherwise that all politicians, especially at the higher levels are taking performance enhancers.

    Modafinil, and other stimulants are especially prevalent. Cocaine is almost proverbially popular amongst high powered people.

  12. Gravatar of Michael Rulle Michael Rulle
    10. October 2020 at 08:12

    Well, again, this is just plain unobservant. Without defending it—-or criticizing it—-how can you possible not be aware he always does this. He must of did this with China a dozen times. He does it all the time.

    But now, because he is on a drug or was—-you pretend to be an expert on its impact—-even though he is doing what he has done 100 time plus or more. If I were guessing, which will make your head explode, he is doing what you have suggested the Fed do. He is taking signals from the market and adapting his opinion.

    Now, you may think this is the turtle man on drugs ——but it is pretty interesting the Turtle reacted so quickly. Your Bayesian on that should be updated—-but it won’t be—-because you will never admit it is even possible Trump might have been right on purpose.

    And to repeat from my other comment——it is pretty hard to be a complete moron and by luck be right 50% of the time. Random in human behavior is not tossing dice—-it tends to instead lead toward far more bad outcomes if one is stupid and evil.

  13. Gravatar of Michael Rulle Michael Rulle
    10. October 2020 at 08:27

    Yes, I missed the satire on sports. So,you can ignore what I said if I am supposed to,ignore what you said.

    re: steroids in sports. Since I am a libertarian by instinct-(yes really)just as I am opposed to drug and vice laws for example, I am against prohibition of steroids in sports. I would want it legalized, and put under medical care and track its dangers. I assume we can improve on them.

    This would make pitchers and hitters better. We know this with virtual certainty. I don’t like engaging in metaphysical reasoning in it being artificial. Man is alive today due to “artificial” medicines and drugs.

    Baseball appears to be the one sport where the impact appears obvious (appears is appropriate—-but I think,it is true).

    What I do not like is when some used it and some did is not.

    I love the history of statistics in baseball. I do agree this will impact that. Bonds from age 35 to 40 had the greatest 5 year streak ever—-except for Ruth—-but they we’re about tied.

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