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		<title>By: While I Was Bogged Down With Keynesians, Sumner Solidifies His Power Grab - Unofficial Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>While I Was Bogged Down With Keynesians, Sumner Solidifies His Power Grab - Unofficial Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Famous monetary economist Frederic Mishkin has now been seduced by the Dark [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: ssumner</title>
		<link>http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=18579&#038;cpage=1#comment-219405</link>
		<dc:creator>ssumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geoff,  Not always, it is really complicated.  A lot depends on the timing, and Fed policy relative to expectations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff,  Not always, it is really complicated.  A lot depends on the timing, and Fed policy relative to expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Sumner:

Thanks.

Do you know of any reasons why short term rates would not rise due to inflation during less than hyperinflationary episodes?  I guess my prior question was pretty trivial, since of course hyperinflation would make all rates for all maturities rise.  I was thinking more of &quot;normal&quot; situations.

If we don&#039;t have hyperinflation, and for the last 100 years there has been no hyperinflation, then does that mean that falling short term interest rates in the presence of inflation has always been due to the so-called &quot;liquidity effect&quot;?

Maybe that question is also trivial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Sumner:</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Do you know of any reasons why short term rates would not rise due to inflation during less than hyperinflationary episodes?  I guess my prior question was pretty trivial, since of course hyperinflation would make all rates for all maturities rise.  I was thinking more of &#8220;normal&#8221; situations.</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t have hyperinflation, and for the last 100 years there has been no hyperinflation, then does that mean that falling short term interest rates in the presence of inflation has always been due to the so-called &#8220;liquidity effect&#8221;?</p>
<p>Maybe that question is also trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: ssumner</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geoff,  There are times where the &quot;long run effect&quot; kicks in quite quickly (as in hyperinflation.)  In that case even short run interest rates may be dominated by the expected inflation effect, not the liquidity effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff,  There are times where the &#8220;long run effect&#8221; kicks in quite quickly (as in hyperinflation.)  In that case even short run interest rates may be dominated by the expected inflation effect, not the liquidity effect.</p>
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		<title>By: While I Was Bogged Down With Keynesians, Sumner Solidifies His Power Grab</title>
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		<dc:creator>While I Was Bogged Down With Keynesians, Sumner Solidifies His Power Grab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Famous monetary economist Frederic Mishkin has now been seduced by the Dark [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Sumner:

&quot;No, I would say LOWER short term rates are almost alway monetary easing. But rates are nlow now, and we don’t have easy money.&quot;

When/how are lower short term rates &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; monetary easing?

&quot;Long rates usually rise with monetary easing, but not always.&quot;

When/how do long term rates &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; rise with monetary easing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Sumner:</p>
<p>&#8220;No, I would say LOWER short term rates are almost alway monetary easing. But rates are nlow now, and we don’t have easy money.&#8221;</p>
<p>When/how are lower short term rates <i>not</i> monetary easing?</p>
<p>&#8220;Long rates usually rise with monetary easing, but not always.&#8221;</p>
<p>When/how do long term rates <i>not</i> rise with monetary easing?</p>
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		<title>By: ssumner</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geoff,  You said;

&quot;So if I have this right, the statement “low interest rates are associated with loose money” is correct, as long as the “interest rates” considered are short term rates as opposed to long term rates? Because loose money always increases long term rates?&quot;

No, I would say LOWER short term rates are almost alway monetary easing.  But rates are nlow now, and we don&#039;t have easy money.

Long rates usually rise with monetary easing, but not always.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff,  You said;</p>
<p>&#8220;So if I have this right, the statement “low interest rates are associated with loose money” is correct, as long as the “interest rates” considered are short term rates as opposed to long term rates? Because loose money always increases long term rates?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I would say LOWER short term rates are almost alway monetary easing.  But rates are nlow now, and we don&#8217;t have easy money.</p>
<p>Long rates usually rise with monetary easing, but not always.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Sumner:

&quot;Geoff, They’d probably distinguish between short and long term interest rates. Low short rates now tend to raise longer term rates. At least that’s how I’d put it.&quot;

Thanks for the clarification.  

So if I have this right, the statement &quot;low interest rates are associated with loose money&quot; is correct, as long as the &quot;interest rates&quot; considered are short term rates as opposed to long term rates?  Because loose money &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; increases long term rates?

If the connection between loose money and interest rates is that loose money raises long term rates, then what do short term rates have to do with anything?  Why do they need to be low in order for long term rates to be high, when the mechanism is money loosening?

Finally (and I appreciate your time in addressing my questions), shouldn&#039;t Fed loosening bring about both higher long term rates &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; higher short term rates?  The way you put it: &quot;low short term rates tend to raise longer term rates&quot;, seems to suggest, to me at least, that loose money tends to decrease short term rates and increase long term rates.

I guess what I am asking is this: When does loose money decrease short term rates and increase long term rates, and when does loose money increase short term rates and increase long term rates?  Is there a middle ground between harsh deflation and harsh inflation that can do this?  Like, inflation does not linearly increase both short and long term rates when inflation is less than hyperinflation and greater than zero inflation?  If so, am I wrong to say that low short term interest rates are associated with loose (but less than hyperinflation) money?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Sumner:</p>
<p>&#8220;Geoff, They’d probably distinguish between short and long term interest rates. Low short rates now tend to raise longer term rates. At least that’s how I’d put it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification.  </p>
<p>So if I have this right, the statement &#8220;low interest rates are associated with loose money&#8221; is correct, as long as the &#8220;interest rates&#8221; considered are short term rates as opposed to long term rates?  Because loose money <i>always</i> increases long term rates?</p>
<p>If the connection between loose money and interest rates is that loose money raises long term rates, then what do short term rates have to do with anything?  Why do they need to be low in order for long term rates to be high, when the mechanism is money loosening?</p>
<p>Finally (and I appreciate your time in addressing my questions), shouldn&#8217;t Fed loosening bring about both higher long term rates <i>and</i> higher short term rates?  The way you put it: &#8220;low short term rates tend to raise longer term rates&#8221;, seems to suggest, to me at least, that loose money tends to decrease short term rates and increase long term rates.</p>
<p>I guess what I am asking is this: When does loose money decrease short term rates and increase long term rates, and when does loose money increase short term rates and increase long term rates?  Is there a middle ground between harsh deflation and harsh inflation that can do this?  Like, inflation does not linearly increase both short and long term rates when inflation is less than hyperinflation and greater than zero inflation?  If so, am I wrong to say that low short term interest rates are associated with loose (but less than hyperinflation) money?</p>
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		<title>By: ssumner</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Nick, I added an update to my newest post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick, I added an update to my newest post.</p>
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		<title>By: RebelEconomist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RebelEconomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, although the Fed statement was obviously designed to take the heat off the Fed over unemployment, it actually struck me as quite hawkish.  The key is, what do they do if inflation rises above 2.5%?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, although the Fed statement was obviously designed to take the heat off the Fed over unemployment, it actually struck me as quite hawkish.  The key is, what do they do if inflation rises above 2.5%?</p>
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